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mdx1

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TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« on: August 26, 2012, 02:50:25 am »

I installed a KWorld TV tuner USB stick.  MC17 can record shows in .ts format.  Ater the recording has completed, I tried to play back .ts files outside MC using VLC player or a HW streamer such as the Dune 3.0 Base.  Some files can be played but some cannot.  The MC can play all of them just fine.

Is this a known problem?

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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 05:05:55 pm »

No, it is not a known problem.  No one else has reported this.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2012, 12:28:04 pm »

No, it is not a known problem.  No one else has reported this.

I really like the option to be able to record in the .ts format as it captures the CC data and preserves the original resolution (1080i or 720p).

Some of the recordings can be viewed with a standalone network streamer such as the Dune Base 3.0 or played with VLC or the Windows media player.  Some of the recordings just show the blank page and nothing happened when played on those devices or programs.  

If during the recording, one mistakenly tried to play it, the file will be "damaged" and will never be played outside MC.

Do you know what might be happening?  I could supply a few samples that cannot be played but those are rather huge files.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 02:31:19 pm »

A sample recording may help.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2012, 12:20:16 pm »

A sample recording may help.

It took a while :) but the upload is finally done.  The sample videos can be found at my SkyDrive shared folder shown below.

http://sdrv.ms/PDejCd

There are two folders, works and doesn't work, each with one video.  The one that does not work is large and split with 7zip.

Please let me know when you have downloaded the sample videos so they can be removed from the web.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2012, 04:05:21 pm »

I added a smaller (2.5GB) sample recorded a few hours ago that cannot be viewed outside MC either.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2012, 10:58:01 pm »

Those problem recordings contain three video streams, one is a 1920x1080i MPEG-2 stream and other two 704x480i MPEG-2 streams,  according to MediaInfo.  The third one is not recognized by tsMuxeR GUI (v1.106) though.  Sometimes, both 704x480i streams are not recognized by tsMuxeR.

If I use tsMuxeR GUI to remux the video with just the 1920x180i video stream to a new .ts file, the video can then be played by VLC, Windows Media Player and hardware streamers such as the Netgear eeoTV 550.

Does this info help?

Here is a sample output from MediaInfo:

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General
ID : 459 (0x1CB)
Complete name : H:\Videos\JRiver\TV Recording\Rick Steves' Europe 2012-09-01.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 2.59 GiB
Duration : 29mn 59s
Start time : UTC 2012-09-01 07:30:06
End time : UTC 2012-09-01 08:00:04
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 12.4 Mbps

Video #1
ID : 49 (0x31)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=30
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 29mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 19.4 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Video #2
ID : 65 (0x41)
Menu ID : 2 (0x2)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 334ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601

Video #3
ID : 81 (0x51)
Menu ID : 3 (0x3)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 33ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601

Audio #1
ID : 52 (0x34)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 29mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -686ms
Stream size : 96.1 MiB (4%)
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 68 (0x44)
Menu ID : 2 (0x2)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 29mn 59s
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 41.2 MiB (2%)
Language : Spanish

Audio #3
ID : 69 (0x45)
Menu ID : 2 (0x2)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 29mn 59s
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 82.4 MiB (3%)
Language : French

Audio #4
ID : 84 (0x54)
Menu ID : 3 (0x3)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 29mn 59s
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 82.4 MiB (3%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 49 (0x31)-CC1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-608
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 29mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID : 49 (0x31)-1
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-708
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 29mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)
Language : English

Text #3
ID : 49 (0x31)-2
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : EIA-708
Muxing mode : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 29mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Menu #1
ID : 48 (0x30)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Duration : 29mn 59s
List : 49 (0x31) (MPEG Video) / 52 (0x34) (AC-3, English)
Language : / English
...

Menu #2
ID : 64 (0x40)
Menu ID : 2 (0x2)
List : 65 (0x41) (MPEG Video) / 68 (0x44) (AC-3, Spanish) / 69 (0x45) (AC-3, French)
Language : / Spanish / French
...

Menu #3
ID : 80 (0x50)
Menu ID : 3 (0x3)
List : 81 (0x51) (MPEG Video) / 84 (0x54) (AC-3, English)
Language : / English
...

Menu #4
ID : 144 (0x90)
Menu ID : 9 (0x9)
List : 154 (0x9A) ()

Menu #5
ID : 160 (0xA0)
Menu ID : 10 (0xA)
List : 170 (0xAA) ()
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480i and 720p can be played but 1080i cannot
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2012, 11:29:07 pm »

It looks like among those .ts recordings, the ones with the highest resolution upto 720p or 480i can be played. 

The ones with the highest resolution upto 1080i cannot be played outside MC until remuxed to remove those 480i SD video streams.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 09:03:59 am »

I tested both "bad" recordings.  It appears that they contain remnants of other streams that were removed.  This may confuse other players.  The first file, the longer one, can be played in ZoomPlayer, Media Player Classic, as well as in MC.  The second file is more troublesome.  VLC can, in fact, play these files, but just not straight forwardly.  You have to tell it which stream to play.  While VLC tries to open the file, right-click, and choose Playback > Program > select "1".  For some reason, "3" is the program listed on the top of the list and is chosen by VLC by default.

When I have time, I will see if I can find a way of making the recordings cleaner.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2012, 04:00:49 pm »

I tested both "bad" recordings.  It appears that they contain remnants of other streams that were removed.  This may confuse other players.  The first file, the longer one, can be played in ZoomPlayer, Media Player Classic, as well as in MC.  The second file is more troublesome.  VLC can, in fact, play these files, but just not straight forwardly.  You have to tell it which stream to play.  While VLC tries to open the file, right-click, and choose Playback > Program > select "1".  For some reason, "3" is the program listed on the top of the list and is chosen by VLC by default.

When I have time, I will see if I can find a way of making the recordings cleaner.

Have you had time to make the recordings cleaner?

Will upgrading to MC18 make this problem go away?
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2012, 05:01:57 pm »

Have you had time to make the recordings cleaner?

Will upgrading to MC18 make this problem go away?

Not yet.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2013, 07:59:08 pm »

I tested both "bad" recordings.  It appears that they contain remnants of other streams that were removed.  This may confuse other players.  The first file, the longer one, can be played in ZoomPlayer, Media Player Classic, as well as in MC.  The second file is more troublesome.  VLC can, in fact, play these files, but just not straight forwardly.  You have to tell it which stream to play.  While VLC tries to open the file, right-click, and choose Playback > Program > select "1".  For some reason, "3" is the program listed on the top of the list and is chosen by VLC by default.

When I have time, I will see if I can find a way of making the recordings cleaner.

Yaobing,

It has been 10 months and JR MC version 18 will soon be replaced by version 19.  This nagging problem still exists.  Is it that hard to clean up the video streams so that it can be read by VLC and HandBrake?  

The convertion to another format is one option but it takes a long time to convert a 2 hour recording.  It would be nice to have the recording work the first place outside the JR MC.

Is it possible to have this fixed soon?  I am willing to pay for the version 19 upgrade to get this but I need some kind of assurance from the JR MC developers.  This problem has been dragging on for more than two releases.  

I have been a good paying customer for JR MC for several version but will hold off the upgrade to v19 until this is resolved.  JR MC already does everything I need audio wise.  But JR MC v18 is not working completely for TV recording yet, IMHO.

Thank you!
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2013, 06:15:58 pm »

I installed a KWorld TV tuner USB stick.  MC17 can record shows in .ts format.  Ater the recording has completed, I tried to play back .ts files outside MC using VLC player or a HW streamer such as the Dune 3.0 Base.  Some files can be played but some cannot.  The MC can play all of them just fine.

Is this a known problem?

What are the tuner model details?

I've got a KWorld UB499-2T DVB-T Tuner at home. If it's the same, I could do a comparison test if that would help.

From the dialogue, it sounds like Yaobing is on to it and probably won't need anything from me. If that's not the case, just set out a test protocol and I'll follow the steps.

I've got MC17 and receive 1080 transmissions over the air, so I should have the resources to conduct a test. Just let me know what you want to do ..  8)
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 12:49:18 am »

What are the tuner model details?

I've got a KWorld UB499-2T DVB-T Tuner at home. If it's the same, I could do a comparison test if that would help.

From the dialogue, it sounds like Yaobing is on to it and probably won't need anything from me. If that's not the case, just set out a test protocol and I'll follow the steps.

I've got MC17 and receive 1080 transmissions over the air, so I should have the resources to conduct a test. Just let me know what you want to do ..  8)

Thank you for the reply.  It's a KWorld ATSC TV Stick UB435-Q USB 2.0 Tuner.  Here is the link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260023

It may be pretty close to yours.

I have mine set to .ts which is supposed to be playable outside JR MC without conversion.  But the recordings tend to have multiple video and audio streams which can always confuse normal video players (HW or SW), players such as VLC or conversion tools such as Handbrake.

Here is a 720p recording off the FOX network.  MediaInfo reports it has:

2 video streams
3 audio streams
2 text streams

The detail view is:

General
ID                                       : 467 (0x1D3)
Complete name                            : H:\Videos\JRiver\TV Recording\So You Think You Can Dance 2013-07-30.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 12.3 GiB
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Start time                               : UTC 2013-07-31 00:57:34
End time                                 : UTC 2013-07-31 02:58:30
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 14.6 Mbps

Video #1
ID                                       : 49 (0x31)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Commercial name                          : HDV 720p
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=30
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 13.6 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 fps
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Video #2
ID                                       : 65 (0x41)
Menu ID                                  : 4 (0x4)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Compression mode                         : Lossy

Audio #1
ID                                       : 52 (0x34)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -660ms
Stream size                              : 388 MiB (3%)
Language                                 : English

Audio #2
ID                                       : 53 (0x35)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -640ms
Stream size                              : 166 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : Spanish

Audio #3
ID                                       : 68 (0x44)
Menu ID                                  : 4 (0x4)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                                 : 129
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Language                                 : English

Text #1
ID                                       : 49 (0x31)-CC1
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : EIA-608
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID                                       : 49 (0x31)-1
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : EIA-708
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Menu #1
ID                                       : 48 (0x30)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
List                                     : 49 (0x31) (MPEG Video) / 52 (0x34) (AC-3, English) / 53 (0x35) (AC-3, Spanish)
Language                                 :  / English / Spanish
Service name                             : KDVR DT
Service channel number                   : 31-1
Service type                             : Digital television
UTC 2013-07-31 00:00:00                  : en:The Simpsons / en:Homer relates the Nativity; Grampa plans to kill Santa. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 00:30:00                  : en:The Simpsons / en:Bart meets a tough girl who helps him escape from juvenile detention. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 01:00:00                  : en:So You Think You Can Dance / en:The dancers perform; elimination. /  /  / 02:00:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 03:00:00                  : en:Fox 31 Denver News at 9pm /  /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 03:30:00                  : en:Fox 31 Denver News at 9:30pm /  /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 04:00:00                  : en:Nightside on Fox 31 /  /  /  / 00:35:00 /
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Menu #2
ID                                       : 64 (0x40)
Menu ID                                  : 4 (0x4)
Duration                                 : 2h 0mn
List                                     : 65 (0x41) (MPEG Video) / 68 (0x44) (AC-3, English)
Language                                 :  / English
Service name                             : Antenna
Service channel number                   : 31-2
Service type                             : Digital television
UTC 2013-07-31 00:00:00                  : en:The Nanny / en:Fran tries to raise money for a shower gift for Yetta; Cece's dog is kidnapped. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 06:37:32 am »

One for others to comment but I would have thought that the ATSC and DVB formats are fundamentally different.

Just to rule out the basics, have you made sure you're working with the latest driver?
Driver(UB435-Q V1~V3)    2013/02/06
Version    5.12.0822
http://us.kworld-global.com/main/prod_in.aspx?mnuid=1306&modid=10&prodid=97&flag=1

Give me some time and I'll load up MC17 but I'm doubtful because it won't be a like for like test.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2013, 10:22:20 am »

Thank you for the link.  You are right ATSC and DVB-T are different.

There is no need to load MC17.  I am running MC 18.0.221.

My USB tuner is listed as UB435-Q V2.

Driver Provider: eMPIA Technology
Driver Date    : 11/23/2010
Driver Version: 5.2010.1123.0
Driver Signer  : Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

The Kword site showed their driver version is 5.12.022, dated 2013/02/06.

I will download the 2013 driver, install it and report back.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2013, 11:13:18 am »

After the driver update, the device manager shows:

ATSC UB435-Q V2

Driver Provider: eMPIA Technology
Driver Date    : 10/18/2012
Driver Version: 5.12.822.1018
Driver Signer  : Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publisher

I recorded a 720p show off FOX, the same channel I was using as the problem reference. 

MediaInfo shows the same thing.

2 video streams: MPEG Video / MPEG Video
3 audio streams: AC-3 / AC-3 / AC-3
2 text streams: EIA-608 / EIA-708


General
ID                                       : 467 (0x1D3)
Complete name                            : H:\Videos\JRiver\TV Recording\Live! With Kelly and Michael 2013-07-31.ts
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 1.52 GiB
Duration                                 : 19mn 19s
Start time                               : UTC 2013-07-31 15:39:02
End time                                 : UTC 2013-07-31 15:58:29
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 11.2 Mbps

Video #1
ID                                       : 49 (0x31)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Commercial name                          : HDV 720p
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=30
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 19mn 28s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 13.6 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 fps
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Video #2
ID                                       : 65 (0x41)
Menu ID                                  : 4 (0x4)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 18mn 57s
Compression mode                         : Lossy

Audio #1
ID                                       : 52 (0x34)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 19mn 27s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -221ms
Stream size                              : 62.4 MiB (4%)
Language                                 : English

Audio #2
ID                                       : 53 (0x35)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 19mn 27s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -234ms
Stream size                              : 26.7 MiB (2%)
Language                                 : Spanish

Audio #3
ID                                       : 68 (0x44)
Menu ID                                  : 4 (0x4)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                                 : 129
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Language                                 : English

Text #1
ID                                       : 49 (0x31)-CC1
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : EIA-608
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 19mn 28s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID                                       : 49 (0x31)-1
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Format                                   : EIA-708
Muxing mode                              : A/53 / DTVCC Transport
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 19mn 28s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Stream size                              : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Menu #1
ID                                       : 48 (0x30)
Menu ID                                  : 3 (0x3)
Duration                                 : 19mn 27s
List                                     : 49 (0x31) (MPEG Video) / 52 (0x34) (AC-3, English) / 53 (0x35) (AC-3, Spanish)
Language                                 :  / English / Spanish
Service name                             : KDVR DT
Service channel number                   : 31-1
Service type                             : Digital television
UTC 2013-07-31 15:00:00                  : en:Live! With Kelly and Michael / en:Matt Damon; Jayma Mays; the two food trucks that will compete in Live's Truckin' Amazing Cook-Off. /  /  / 01:00:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 16:00:00                  : en:Everyday / en:Hosts: Chris Parente and Natalie Tysdal. /  /  / 01:00:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 17:00:00                  : en:TMZ /  /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 17:30:00                  : en:Access Hollywood / en:Kevin Hart; Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Teri Hatcher; Denzel Washington and Mark Wahlberg. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 18:00:00                  : en:We the People With Gloria Allred / en:Revealing photos; cost of jewelry necklace. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
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Menu #2
ID                                       : 64 (0x40)
Menu ID                                  : 4 (0x4)
Duration                                 : 19mn 19s
List                                     : 65 (0x41) (MPEG Video) / 68 (0x44) (AC-3, English)
Language                                 :  / English
Service name                             : Antenna
Service channel number                   : 31-2
Service type                             : Digital television
UTC 2013-07-31 15:00:00                  : en:McHale's Navy / en:Ensign Parker joins the crew of PT 73. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 15:30:00                  : en:McHale's Navy / en:Gruber puts in for a barely-earned Purple Heart. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 16:00:00                  : en:Bachelor Father / en:Kelly's first date is no fun for her or Bentley. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 16:30:00                  : en:Bachelor Father / en:Kelly plans a surprise dinner party. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
UTC 2013-07-31 17:00:00                  : en:Father Knows Best / en:Football tickets cause Jim unexpected problems. /  /  / 00:30:00 /
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2013, 09:32:42 pm »

It has been a year and two versions earlier since I started this thread.  There is still no solution insight.  I am wondering what is going on?

Is JR MC not putting much effort in the TV/video area?  If this is the case, what does one gain to upgrade to MC 19?
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2013, 10:38:56 pm »

Yaobing had been working on this resulting in a fix being released a few weeks ago.  You may want to give it a go!

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19.0.26 (8/13/2013)
8. Fixed: Television recordings in transport stream format could be unplayable in other applications, and could have bad quality.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2013, 10:43:24 am »

Yaobing had been working on this resulting in a fix being released a few weeks ago.  You may want to give it a go!


Thank you for the update.  I will definitely try again tonight.  Last time I tried not long time ago, MC18 was still producing same number video streams that confuse many players, hardware or software.  

Is this fix in MC18 or only in MC19?

| Sigh.  Never mind it's in 19.  Now I have to deal with beta software again. ;D
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2013, 06:40:42 pm »

You may have a reason to upgrade!  Anyway, you can run the a trial of MC19 side by side MC18.
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2013, 04:21:21 am »

Yaobing had been working on this resulting in a fix being released a few weeks ago.  You may want to give it a go!


This has been bugging me (just at "nagging thought" level).

I gave a .ts file a watch recorded via MC19.0.38 on VLC 2.0.8. Worked a treat. If there was a problem, I can't repeat it..   ;)
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Re: TV recorded in .ts format not always watchable outside MC
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2013, 04:57:35 pm »

After upgrading to JR MC19, .ts recordings no longer contain multiple video streams and can be played outside JR MC perfectly.  Thank you!
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