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[zzoemie]

Hi, i recently bought a sonos connect.
When start up jriver on my windows pc and i restart the SONOS connect, jriver finds the sonos.
The sonos is normally always on, in this case when i start jriver on my windows pc with the sonos already running, jriver does not detect the sonos until i manually shut down the sonos en make him manually restart by plugin out / in the power cable.
I don't think this is the wright way to do things.
How can this be solved?
When i start the sonos app, the app immediately finds the sonos.

Greets
Dirk

[AndrewFG]

Can you download the DMRA tester app from my sig, and see if it can find the Sonos? And if so please post the test log file here.

[zzoemie]

Hi, here are the results of the test:
The sonos was not detected by JRiver Mediacenter.

DMR Report (by Whitebear) for Sonos CONNECT
===========================================

Device Description Url=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/device_description.xml
HTTP Server Header=Linux UPnP/1.0 Sonos/29.5-91030 (ZP90)
Description=Sonos CONNECT
Friendly Name=192.168.1.105 - Sonos CONNECT
Manufacturer Name=Sonos, Inc.
Manufacturer Url=http://www.sonos.com
Model Name=Sonos CONNECT
Model Number=ZP90
Model Url=http://www.sonos.com/products/zoneplayers/ZP90
UPnP Device Type=urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:ZonePlayer:1
UPnP Media Renderer version=1
Unique Device Name=uuid:RINCON_B8E93798BCFE01400
Service Url for AlarmClock=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/AlarmClock1.xml
Service Url for MusicServices=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/MusicServices1.xml
Service Url for AudioIn=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/AudioIn1.xml
Service Url for DeviceProperties=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/DeviceProperties1.xml
Service Url for SystemProperties=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/SystemProperties1.xml
Service Url for ZoneGroupTopology=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/ZoneGroupTopology1.xml
Service Url for GroupManagement=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/GroupManagement1.xml
Service Url for ContentDirectory=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/ContentDirectory1.xml
Service Url for ConnectionManager=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/ConnectionManager1.xml
Service Url for RenderingControl=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/RenderingControl1.xml
Service Url for AVTransport=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/AVTransport1.xml
Service Url for GroupRenderingControl=http://192.168.1.105:1400/xml/GroupRenderingControl1.xml
AVT:SetNextAVTransportURI (gapless play)=Supported
AVT:SyncPlay (synchronous play)=Feature not available on this DMR version
RC:GetVolume action=Supported
RC:SetVolume action=Supported
AVT:Event Subscription=Succeded
HTTP User Agent (client)=Sonos
Play test file result=Play success => Start Ok / Stop Ok


Media Center DLNA Server Advanced Settings
==========================================

DLNA=Off
DLNAExtra=Off
Enable bitrate Field=Off
Filter international characters=Checked
Include session ID=Off
Playstation 3 Compatible=Off
Present Caption Resources=Off
Present Small Artwork=Off
Present Subtitle Resources=Off
Skip Child Count=Checked
Use flat URLs=Checked
Use full URLs=Checked
WMC Compatible=Off


Declared Supported Audio, Image & Video Formats
===============================================

http-get:*:audio/mp3:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/mp3:*
http-get:*:audio/mp4:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/mp4:*
http-get:*:audio/mpeg:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/mpeg:*
http-get:*:audio/mpegurl:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/mpegurl:*
real.com-rhapsody-http-1-0:*:audio/mpegurl:*
file:*:audio/mpegurl:*
http-get:*:audio/mpeg3:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/mpeg3:*
http-get:*:audio/wav:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/wav:*
http-get:*:audio/wma:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/wma:*
http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
http-get:*:audio/aiff:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/aiff:*
http-get:*:audio/flac:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/flac:*
http-get:*:application/ogg:*
x-file-cifs:*:application/ogg:*
http-get:*:audio/audible:*
x-file-cifs:*:audio/audible:*
real.com-rhapsody-http-1-0:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
real.com-rhapsody-direct:*:audio/mp3:*
sonos.com-mms:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/mpeg3:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/mpeg:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/wma:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/mp4:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/wav:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/aiff:*
sonos.com-http:*:audio/flac:*
sonos.com-http:*:application/ogg:*
sonos.com-spotify:*:audio/x-spotify:*
sonos.com-rtrecent:*:audio/x-sonos-recent:*
real.com-rhapsody-http-1-0:*:audio/x-rhap-radio:*
real.com-rhapsody-direct:*:audio/x-rhap-radio:*
pandora.com-pndrradio:*:audio/x-pandora-radio:*
pandora.com-pndrradio-http:*:audio/mpeg3:*
sirius.com-sirradio:*:audio/x-sirius-radio:*
x-rincon:*:*:*
x-rincon-mp3radio:*:*:*
x-rincon-playlist:*:*:*
x-rincon-queue:*:*:*
x-rincon-stream:*:*:*
x-sonosapi-stream:*:*:*
x-sonosapi-hls:*:*:*
x-sonosapi-radio:*:audio/x-sonosapi-radio:*
x-sonosapi-iqradio:*:audio/x-sonosapi-iqradio:*
x-rincon-cpcontainer:*:*:*
last.fm-radio:*:audio/x-lastfm-radio:*
last.fm-radio-http:*:audio/mpeg3:*


Tested Audio, Image & Video Formats
===================================

http-get:*:audio/x-flac:WHITEBEAR_PROFILE=???_@params_44100x2x16


Evaluated Supported Audio Formats
=================================

audio/mp3   MP3   Fuzzy   *   2   *   No
audio/mp4   AAC_ISO   Fuzzy   *   2   *   No
audio/mpeg   MP3   Fuzzy   *   2   *   No
audio/wav   WAV   Fuzzy   *   *   *   Yes
audio/x-ms-wma   WMABASE   Fuzzy   *   2   *   No
audio/aiff   AIFF   Fuzzy   *   *   *   Yes
audio/flac   FLAC   Fuzzy   *   *   *   Yes
audio/mpegurl      Undefined            
audio/mpeg3      Undefined            
audio/wma      Undefined            
audio/audible      Undefined            
audio/x-flac   ? ? ?   Tested   44100   2   16   No

[AndrewFG]

Thank you for running the test.

Evidently the DMRA had no difficulty discovering the Sonos. So your network and routing would appear to be in order. So frankly I don't know why MC does not discover the Sonos. Did you run the DMRA on the same PC as MC is running on?

[zzoemie]

Yes of course.

When sonos starts up he announces himself, at that time MC knows he's there and he shows the sonos?
This means that MC does not ask on startup "who's there".

[AndrewFG]

When sonos starts up he announces himself, at that time MC knows he's there and he shows the sonos?
This means that MC does not ask on startup "who's there".

Yes, that's what seems to be happening. I just don't know why.

The Sonos should be making announcements on startup and regularly thereafter (about every 30 minutes maximum). So if you wait up to 30 minutes, does the Sonos finally appear in MC?

Also can you please tell us something about your home network equipment, topology etc., what O/S you are running, and if you have any a/v or firewall software in use...

[zzoemie]

Hi,

My OS is Windows 10, my a/v and firewall is ESET, the wifi router is a linksys WRT54G.
The SONOS is connected by wire to the linksys WRT54G and the pc is via WIFI connected to the WRT54G

Dirk

[AndrewFG]

Following are some tips in order to keep UPnP / DLNA bindings as stable as possible..

• Connect all media devices via wired Ethernet rather than WiFi wherever possible
• Ensure that all media devices have fixed IP addresses (either via DHCP with DHCP server IP address reservations, or alternatively set Static addresses on each device)
• Keep all media devices connected to power (use sleep/standby instead of power off)
• Ensure that your network router supports routing of UDP multicast and UDP unicast datagrams
• Ensure that your firewall and/or anti- virus software is not blocking any TCP or UDP traffic to/from MC.exe

[zzoemie]

Connect all media devices via wired Ethernet rather than WiFi wherever possible, OK
Ensure that all media devices have fixed IP addresses (either via DHCP with DHCP server IP address reservations, or alternatively set Static addresses on each device), impossible, with sonos you can not assign a fix ip-adress
Keep all media devices connected to power (use sleep/standby instead of power off)
Ensure that your network router supports routing of UDP multicast and UDP unicast datagrams OK
Ensure that your firewall and/or anti- virus software is not blocking any TCP or UDP traffic to/from MC.exe OK

[ssands]

Just a data point for you. I've got a bunch of Sonos components in the house. They are on all the time and connected by wire. MC is on my laptop and is wireless. All the sonos components show up within seconds of starting MC everytime.

I'm on Windows 10-64 and it worked the same way on Win 7-64.

[zzoemie]

Then i don't know what's going wrong. Here they only show up when i restart the sonos.
In the windows network they are visible when the pc has started up. In MC they 're not.
My configuration is the sam as yours.
PC on wifi, sonos wired.
Can you help me, i'm also on windows 10 64 bit the pro version?
One more thing, when i startup the nas, he shows up in seconds, only the sonos does not?

HELP

[zzoemie]

OK, i have found it, i've added a rule on the firewall and now it works.

[akira54]

Just a data point for you. I've got a bunch of Sonos components in the house. They are on all the time and connected by wire. MC is on my laptop and is wireless. All the sonos components show up within seconds of starting MC everytime.

I'm on Windows 10-64 and it worked the same way on Win 7-64.

I can confirm that this is also the case with my Sonos equipment (several Connects hard wired as well as Play3 and Play5). I am on Windows 7.

[blgentry]

OK, i have found it, i've added a rule on the firewall and now it works.

I suspected you had a network issue, but obviously couldn't be sure.  What firewall rule did you add or change to make this work?

Brian.