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alcarp

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MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« on: October 30, 2015, 01:11:15 am »

The SQ of MC 21 is now ahead of A+ for the first time in my system. Well done and thanks to the team at JRiver. I have a Windows license and will now purchase the master license.

The database management aspects have always been streets ahead o A+.

All I need now is for the linux version to run on a Synology NAS.   :)
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chriswimlett

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 11:28:44 am »

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Max Delissen

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 05:03:43 pm »

Can you elaborate on the SQ comparison please?

In my big system, I must confess that I too prefer the sound quality of A+ 2.4 to MC20 (both on late 2012 Mac mini with 4GB RAM as a dedicated streamer setup), but the interface, library management and remote app of A+ still leave much to be desired. MC20 plus Remote is way ahead of that for sure...

And to be honest, on my desktop system (MB Pro Mid2010 with 8GB RAM) there seems to be hardly any difference in sound quality between MC20 and MC21...
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alcarp

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 06:24:43 pm »

Sorry for the delay in responding but I've only just seen your post.

MC21 on the Mac seems to have more body, better tone and is smoother and more rounded than A+ in my system.
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RunHomeSlow

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 10:23:04 pm »

i have A+ 2.2.5 and just bought JRiver 21 for mac....
there is a difference in sound for sure.... Who's best ??

i bought JRiver because A+ always skip or cannot connect correctly with my DAC....
don't know why, because others with same DAC are successful...

I am Upsampling 44 files to 352 or 384 for 48...
Usually plays fine in A+ but the software is never constant for starting song.... "hiccups" then it finds the right and plays well.
With JRiver, i can set my DAC to buffer max and DSD streaming, outputing at 2 times DSD in DoP format with no lattency or "hiccups", love it.

i won't comment on Remote or library settings, because it is obvious

i'm still testing... at first, JRiver seems more clearer...
A+ plays seems more rich in middle frequency range... not an expert and not tested fully yet, just first impression
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MacMini 2018, 4xi3 3.6GHz, SSD, 20Gb, macOS 14.3 > Audirvana Origin 2.5.x >
Wyred DAC2 DSD Special Edition > Proceed AMP2 > Focal Cobalt 826 Signature Series >
Audirvana Remote > iPhone 13

pschelbert

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2015, 04:56:45 am »

I noticed sound differences between several playback softwares.
It turned out the main point are the settings.

In MC you can set so much. I discovered, best is to switch off these features like mixing (in DSP) etc.
Get it as straight as possible if you want the highest sound quality.
I must say, I have not found any better sounding software to play digital music. MC includes any bit-debth, sample-rate, file-format and multichannel
No problem to play 5.1, 6 channels etc. at any rate at any bit-debth.
May be the notified sound-differences are just settings in MC which should be switched off...try.
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Bluemoon

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 10:26:27 pm »

I noticed sound differences between several playback softwares.
It turned out the main point are the settings.

I tend to agree. After all, in bitstream mode anyway, what you are hearing is your DAC. Having a quality async USB DAC sorts out jitter/timing issues to a large extend.

For me the key benefits of JRMP (bitstream everything) are clip control and smart volume levelling without impacting dynamic range.
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RunHomeSlow

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Re: MC 21 vs Audirvana 2.2
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2015, 10:32:09 pm »

The benefit for me is that i don't paranoid when i click a song to play...
it plays with JRiver at maximum settings i give... it always skip at beginning of song or bit depth change with Audirvana
with my DAC... Wyred DAC 2 DSD se, Audirvana will never for sure get it at the rate i want it to do, it skip or have "hiccups"...
JRiver do it easily, even upsampling at 2 times DSD, editing songs and remote surpass easily A+...
but Damien is alone on A+ and MAC like... i have to give it to him... Music  is more important to me... i switched...
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MacMini 2018, 4xi3 3.6GHz, SSD, 20Gb, macOS 14.3 > Audirvana Origin 2.5.x >
Wyred DAC2 DSD Special Edition > Proceed AMP2 > Focal Cobalt 826 Signature Series >
Audirvana Remote > iPhone 13
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