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Simplest version for PC that plays well with JRiver MC ?
BryanC:
--- Quote from: kstuart on June 02, 2016, 06:15:34 pm ---After doing a little reading, for the purpose of just running MC21, I am leaning towards "Linux Lite" - their 3.0 Final (stable) has just been released. It uses xfce, as suggested above, and is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS:
https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/release-announcements/linux-lite-3-0-final-released/
Any problems installing MC21 on that ?
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Any distro can be made 'lite' after the fact. The problem with the smaller distros is that they usually have correspondingly small package repositories, 'quirks' that make forum/wiki tech support more difficult, and a propensity to disappear completely after a few years.
The biggest differences in 'liteness' comes down to the DE used, not the distro. Thus you will want to use a lightweight DE like XFCE or LXQT/LXDE. Xubuntu would be a good choice if you like the look of Linux Lite since it uses the same DE (XFCE), and is built from a distro that is very similar to the one that MC for Linux is developed on.
kstuart:
Thanks for the informative and thoughtful comments.
I did some searching on Linux Lite vs Mint Mate or Mint Xfce, and the overall sense I got is that Linux Lite was somewhat more stable and used less resources. I did find this 2016 comment on Mate vs Xfce:
"I use both, they both have their pros and cons, but I honestly prefer XFCE, it's just far more stable then Mate."
On Linux Lite vs Xubuntu vs Mint Xfce, I found the following comments:
"For my non-technical response, it has to be the great support of the developer, Jerry, and others on the Linux Lite forum. There is no Xubuntu forum and the Xubuntu users get lost in the Ubuntu forum. With Mint you may have a similar problem because it is only one of the many DE it offers. I let others provide more technical reasons."
and
"Linux Lite is designed to minimize the 'learning curve' for users transitioning from Windows to Linux, while using less CPU/RAM resources than Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu to do so."
and this post was persuasive:
"The entire premise behind Linux Lite, is to give a Window's user the best chance at discovering the world of Linux and to present Linux in the most anxiety free way possible. The creator of Linux Lite, Jerry Bezencon has made his premise known in several interviews for online Linux publications since the inception of this distribution.
Specifics? To mention a few,
1. The choice of the Xfce DE shouldn't be easily dismissed. It's layout is simple, intuitive, functional and as configured in the iso, reminiscent of XP, Vista and Windows 7.
2. The structure of the system menu and more importantly, it's layout and labeling. Far too often a new user can be utterly confused and turned off by the names of Linux applications and many times, those applications are redundantly provided by the distribution (More than one application provided for the same task), Mint is famous for this. It's been mentioned before in this thread but needs repeating, the system menu (Whisker) in Linux Lite is labeled with common usage names and not obscure Linux application names.
3. Have you looked at the "Linux Lite Control Center"? Everything from system configuration, desktop configuration to software sources can be found here and it's intuitively designed to fit within the premise of Linux Lite.
4. Forget about terminal and apt-get, do you remember trying to understand Synaptic Package Manager during your first go around with Linux? Updating apt and adding sources? Then trying to locate the application you want (with a weird name) and hoping you don't make a mistake and soft-brick the system? I do!... Take a look at "Lite Software" app located in the System sub-menu of Whisker. There's a plethora of "intuitively labeled" and commonly used applications listed for the new user to simply click and install. No terminal, no synaptic package manager and no manual adding of PPA's. It also keeps an easily accessible, running tally upon what apps the user has added to their system and provides easy removal too.
5. Last but most importantly (imo) is the "Linux Lite Help Manual". A NEW USERS DREAM! Answers to everything can be found here. BEST of all, it's Precisely,Concisely and Specifically written for the Window's user in mind. I can't begin to say enough about this document and how extremely valuable it would've been for me, when I first started using Linux many years ago.
In the sometimes egocentric and even arrogant Linux universe, it's a wonderful to find a developer and distribution truly engaged in making Linux and open source... Easy, presentable and FUN to potential new users. "
and the similar:
"LL really cuts it for me over any other distro (including Xubuntu) or Windows OS, for the following
reasons in order of importance (most important first):
1. The LL forum: a real community of ever-helpful members who are willing to share their time and
knowledge, and very importantly, to match your level of understanding. Ubuntu, Mint & Zorin
forums seem much larger and as a result you feel somewhat anonymous, and so not quite
the same feel of community about them - a unique selling point of LL
2. LL is easy to use for ex-Windows-OS users, particularly those who are not power users, e.g the familiarity of
desktop layout and its intuitive gui which, and very importantly, does away with a need for
command line
3. Applications rather than the package names are used - this gives clarity particularly for noobs who
are not familiar with linux package names
4. Lightweight & does a great job of resurrecting older PCs."
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So, I'm probably going to give Linux Lite a try - I can easily do it in a way that does not interfere with my normal use, since I built the PC with a large spare partition for future dual boot use.
And, if it works with JRiver MC21, then that will give a data point for future Linux Lite users.
BUT, I'm still open to other input...
kstuart:
Since Linux Lite 3.0 is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, the following comment seems another reason to try it, especially until Mint 18 is available:
" Media Center requires libs of at least the same version found in Debian 8.0 Jessie. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (and Linux Mint 17.2 which is based off 14.04) use older libs than the ones needed by Media Center. The fix uses a PPA which upgrades some of the libs, thus allowing Media Center to work again. "
In other words, one less thing to futz with. :)
I have an old 2003 Windows XP laptop which is sitting idle, so I am going to try Linux Lite on it first, since it seems an ideal pairing.
Awesome Donkey:
--- Quote from: kstuart on June 03, 2016, 12:35:24 pm ---" Media Center requires libs of at least the same version found in Debian 8.0 Jessie. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (and Linux Mint 17.2 which is based off 14.04) use older libs than the ones needed by Media Center. The fix uses a PPA which upgrades some of the libs, thus allowing Media Center to work again. "
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This isn't an issue anymore, actually.
kstuart:
--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on June 03, 2016, 01:02:31 pm ---This isn't an issue anymore, actually.
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MC was changed ?
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