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BillT:
I've got a bridge to sell you.....
kstuart:
An audiophile friend who makes a hobby out of comparing DACs, and who uses JRiver exclusively, said the following after comparing the Schiit Bifrost Multibit DAC's internal filtering to JRiver MC's resampling (note that this was with the older SSRC of course):
"Schiit Filter >> JRiver upsampling to 192kHz. Upsampling closes the entire stage. Sense of soundwave propagation from instruments, especially bass (long wave lengths), separation, layering, positioning, angles, they get become discombobulated and simplified without the Schiit Filter. The sense of space is really amazing with the Filter. "
Of course, this is subjective and anecdotal.
pschelbert:
--- Quote from: kstuart on July 19, 2016, 11:23:48 am ---The upsampling in the recent Schiit multibit DACs is better than anything you can do on PC, so you only want to bypass the DAC if it has poor resampling.
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Hi
it not about upsampling. Its about to change the internal DAC-reconstruction filter.
The described trick let you do that.
You move the DAC-filter out to higher frequncies and insert the DAC-filter extrnally.
However with an external filter you can do eveything a Schiit does and much more with even more precision (64bit floating point!).
The sky is the limit...
Okay the question is if its really get better than what is in the DAC.
Peter
blgentry:
--- Quote from: pschelbert on July 19, 2016, 02:32:34 am ---Application:
To circumvent the internal DAC-filter.
If you play a CD at 44.1kHz, the DAC does set his internal filter to 44.1kHz. It may be that you do not like the filter (because its linear, not step enough , to steep etc.), or want to try a filter with another phase response.
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I think you're probably misinformed about how modern DACs work. Do you use a very old DAC? Or one of the 2 or 3 or 4 modern DACs that use multi-bit DAC chips? If you're using a modern DAC that is not multi-bit, you can't "circumvent the filter", because there isn't one! Modern DACs are Delta Sigma, so the steep filter you are describing is not required.
Brian.
kstuart:
--- Quote from: pschelbert on July 20, 2016, 04:41:14 pm ---Hi
it not about upsampling. Its about to change the internal DAC-reconstruction filter.
The described trick let you do that.
You move the DAC-filter out to higher frequncies and insert the DAC-filter extrnally.
However with an external filter you can do eveything a Schiit does and much more with even more precision (64bit floating point!).
The sky is the limit...
Okay the question is if its really get better than what is in the DAC.
Peter
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With an external filter you cannot "do everything a Schiit does and with even more precision".
The whole point of the Schiit filter is that it is the only filter that has perfect precision. It is not an approximation. Read the description above.
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