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JRiver vs. dBpoweramp for ripping CDs? Opinions?
JimH:
--- Quote from: mwillems on January 09, 2017, 10:22:51 am ---That said, I use dBpoweramp for ripping, but not for audio quality, but because there are two "convenience" advantages to using dBpoweramp to rip:
1) Accurate Rip may not be more accurate than a secure rip, but accurate rip only reads the CD once (if there are no read errors). Secure ripping necessarily involves reading the CD twice. This takes (at least) twice as long.
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I don't think so. Could you test and provide times?
--- Quote ---2) JRiver's metadata sources are improving year to year, but (at least for the kind of music I like) their metadata is not as complete as the metadata dBpoweramp fetches.
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Testing and results would be useful. Our database is pretty good and very clean.
Maybe you haven't tested for a while.
JimH:
I found one of Listener's posts on this:
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f11-software/j-river-vs-dbripper-ripping-17506/#post255148
JimH:
--- Quote from: AndrewFG on January 09, 2017, 10:25:30 am ---I don't doubt you Jim. I just said what I use and why..
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I've seen people say similar things, but I don't think it's based in fact. In the early days of CD's, there were some problems with the devices, but that time is pretty much over.
AndrewFG:
--- Quote from: JimH on January 09, 2017, 10:25:56 am ---Our database is pretty good and very clean.
Maybe you haven't tested for a while.
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ROFL. I did my part here. I ripped my 10'000 tracks using dbP and got the metadata from dbP's third party sources as well. Then I uploaded all those 10'000 tracks metadata to MC's server so it is now on their site too. :) I think other major MC customers have done the same..
mwillems:
--- Quote from: JimH on January 09, 2017, 10:25:56 am ---I don't think so. Could you test and provide times?Testing and results would be useful.
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Do you mean fresh tests? I did testing at the time across a dozen or so disks and accurate rip was consistently a hair more than twice as fast (in the absence of read errors). On disks with read errors, they were comparable in speed. There's really no way that it could be otherwise; accurate rip only requires a single reading of the disk (if the checksum clears) and secure rip (to be secure) requires reading it twice. If you'd like something more definitive I could easily do a few more discs and report back with actual times.
--- Quote ---Our database is pretty good and very clean.
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It is, and I've contributed more than 30k tracks worth of metadata to it to do my part.
For context, I get about 10 or 15 cds a month. I always check a few of them with JRiver (every month). The YADB hit rate is improving (a few years ago it was closer to 60% than 80%), but AllMusic and GD3 (dBpoweramp's sources) have almost 100% coverage. Again if you want definite numbers, I can post specific results across 10 or 15 discs, but what I'm describing is observation across hundreds of comparisons over a period of a year or two.
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