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Pono is Finished
Castius:
Thank you for standing up for what you believe in.
I've never understood why people would pay more for less. Simple because it was digital. Or that paying for one track should cost you more and without the art. It's just never made any sense.
Good luck and thank you.
Scott
JimH:
--- Quote from: neil young ---Last year when Omnifone, our download store partner, was bought and shut down with no notice by Apple, we began work with another company to build the same download store.
--- End quote ---
Neil is leaving out parts of the story. Omnifone went bankrupt and only then did Apple buy the assets. I suspect this happened because Pono (Ivanhoe) didn't pay their bills. We always had trouble collecting for our work, and they still owe us $28,000. They may have only paid JRiver at all because the player timed out if they didn't.
Neil is an idealist, but he is not a business person. In business, you make the calculations first, operate carefully, and pay your bills. It was irresponsible of him to continue to try to build a streaming service when he still owed people money for the past work they had done.
Admit your mistakes, Neil, and move on. Blaming the problems on the music business is something Trump might do, but it's not something Neil Young should be doing. The music business isn't a boys choir, but they didn't cause the failure of Pono.
herbsworld:
Where I come from they call that "Selective Memory".
It is ingrained within the PoNo For'em Community, far as I can tell, as well.
Neil has a long history of being a terrible business man. I agree with you about an idealist as well, ALA, "Hippie Dream".
But it's more than that. He is a Flip Flopper, Extremely Wishy-Washy, (Mp3's good, Mp3's bad - Streaming Good, Streaming Bad) depends on the day of the week? or is it the Full moon?
before PoNo Neil's kick was Blu Ray Audio. And, much to his credit, he is one of a very few artists who care about the end product. released his entire NYA vol1 in full 24/192. BUT he also included an mp3 d/l card & "promised" *FREE* additions via BLU RAY Live. If that sounds familiar it is. The failed "PoNo Promise", just an earlier version.
R. I. P. PoNo 03~11~14 - 04~20~17
chericaplanellery:
--- Quote from: JimH on April 21, 2017, 07:06:57 am ---Neil is leaving out parts of the story. Omnifone went bankrupt and only then did Apple buy the assets. I suspect this happened because Pono (Ivanhoe) didn't pay their bills. We always had trouble collecting for our work, and they still owe us $28,000. They may have only paid JRiver at all because the player timed out if they didn't.
Neil is an idealist, but he is not a business person. In business, you make the calculations first, operate carefully, and pay your bills. It was irresponsible of him to continue to try to build a streaming service when he still owed people money for the past work they had done.
Admit your mistakes, Neil, and move on. Blaming the problems on the music business is something Trump might do, but it's not something Neil Young should be doing. The music business isn't a boys choir, but they didn't cause the failure of Pono.
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Wow - I see this and wonder if Neil Young read it and knows all this. I can't imagine where he made millions upon millions from the kickstarter program, that he would not pay a bill for 28,000.
JRiver provided good software and service and I purchased a license after Pono stopped using JRiver. I would hope that you sold a lot of licenses from people like me? Anyhow - I don't know the details and with a bankruptcy, who knows... But I would not give up trying to collect that money somehow because maybe Neil is not the best business man, but please don't compare him to T. That is unfair and I think you can prob kiss that money goodbye if he sees that comment. I think you have helped a lot of people who knew nothing about digital downloads and computers and who bought Pono because their fav artists agreed it sounded great. It seems to me that you are bitter and putting stuff like this out there instead of trying to work something out, is wrong and not a professional business way to do something.
I just sent you a message asking you a few questions before I saw this. I saw Neil's post last month but again your comments are not nice. I hope you collect the money, but I am just saying that isn't the way to get what you want. Where's the love? Geez
JimH:
We have tried to collect. They don't return calls or e-mail. The next step is to file suit.
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