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nila

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To King - Plugin Problem
« on: July 09, 2003, 03:25:46 am »

Your plugins dont seem to be work since the latest build.

They're not updating from the 'playing now' list properly.

They just seem to fill when I first open MC, not once it's running if I change the playing now files.

It's probably MC but thought I'd mention it to u as it's ur plugins :)
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2003, 03:29:29 am »

This is down to the change made to the plugin architcture.  I think it means that all plugins can now run independently of the plugins window so they can start running in the background as soon as MC opens...

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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2003, 05:07:05 am »

ah :)
I was wondering what that post was talking about.

That's pretty cool, means the plugin could do all kinds of things..

That explains why I had to uninstall the party sampler plugin - kept just doing it non stop with no way to tell it to shut up :)
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2003, 05:13:47 am »

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Your plugins dont seem to be work since the latest build.

They're not updating from the 'playing now' list properly.

They just seem to fill when I first open MC, not once it's running if I change the playing now files.

It's probably MC but thought I'd mention it to u as it's ur plugins :)


I Will Look At It Once I Get Done With Rebuilding And Optimizing The Code Cover Art Finder.
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2003, 06:53:27 am »

It Looks Like After The First Run

the program will Not Goback To

Private Sub UserControl_Show()
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Public Function Init(ByVal MediaJukebox As Object) As Variant
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Private Sub UserControl_Initialize()

When You Exit And Return

Even If Your Not Running The Plug-In In Mode "1" (Run All The Time)

It Sill Will Not Work

This Could Really Suck, Since If Hide or Show Is Not Allowed To Access Then I Can Not Set Or Save Settings UnLess There is a work around or a fix.

Not sure how to fix this

Maybe Somoene Can Tell Me How To Refresh Without The User Pressing A Button.
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2003, 07:11:53 am »

King - Couldn't u expand it so that it doesn't require the files to be put in playing now and it could just pull them directly out of the db.

You dont really need to improve the code on your cover art finder much.

I used it over the weekend and out of 10,000 songs I now only have 800 with no cover art - pretty darn impressive I'd say (presuming u got me the right covers).
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2003, 07:23:38 am »

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presuming u got me the right covers

well there is a bit of error in the search nothing is 100%

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Couldn't u expand it so that it doesn't require the files to be put in playing now and it could just pull them directly out of the db.

that sounds real easy, but it does not work that way.

besides the list is just something for you to look at, and it does take the info directly from the DB but if you can not update the list you can't get the info on what files you wish to work on.

a Button fixes this but that requires the User to manualy update the list. and what happens if you do not update the list, does file info from one file get pasted on another and then have data form one file mixed with another. answer = yes
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2003, 08:36:16 am »

With the new plugin architecture I have a couple of questions:

1) Does this mean we can run multiple plugins at the sametime (ie, Your Cover Art Finder & DubFinder simultaneuosly) ?

2)  Does this mean that on startup that all the plugins (Bios Finder, Cover Art finder, Chart Finder, etc) try to look at the first file in my Playing Now list and try to get their info for it ? Wouldnt this cause a big slowdown?

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2003, 08:52:25 am »

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With the new plugin architecture I have a couple of questions:

1) Does this mean we can run multiple plugins at the sametime (ie, Your Cover Art Finder & DubFinder simultaneuosly) ?

2)  Does this mean that on startup that all the plugins (Bios Finder, Cover Art finder, Chart Finder, etc) try to look at the first file in my Playing Now list and try to get their info for it ? Wouldnt this cause a big slowdown?


well the programs may start but they do not run doing any work except maybe the first file in each list.

Maybe, Not Sure What Direction Matt Is Going In

But Yes It Is Possable, This has It's Pros And Cons

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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2003, 10:27:26 am »

A big pro of it is that it means I can have your plugins finding my cover art etc while doing other stuff with MC.


I think all plugins though are going to need to be re-worked to have a : start/stop button though that is CLEAR and easy so we can start and stop them at will.


Maybe MC needs to have a feature included now that lets us do 'plugin control' - whereby we can start and stop any of the plugins at will using a mini control panel - this would help with older plugins that were designed to just 'run when focused' with no planning for - 'what if we're always running'
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2003, 10:42:22 am »

well i think the mode in the registry should work, and also something in the SDK to turn it on and off so the programer can control it.

By the way, the next version of Cover Art Finder Will allow for 3 passes, allow you to control Artist, Album And SongName

so you can make the search as loose or tight as you want.

I put a list refresh button on it for now. maybe matt might share some knolage on how to fix this now major problem for me.
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2003, 04:57:01 pm »

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Your plugins dont seem to be work since the latest build.

They're not updating from the 'playing now' list properly.

They just seem to fill when I first open MC, not once it's running if I change the playing now files.

It's probably MC but thought I'd mention it to u as it's ur plugins :)


Try The New Cover Art Finder I Just Uploaded

See If Your Still Having Problems.

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When Taking A Bath, I figured I Could Check The Playing Now File List, And Compare That With The One In The Plug-In. If It Has Changed Then The Plug-In Will stop The Batch, And Update The List.

Since This Is On A Timer It Checks Every 1 Second.

Untill Matt Or Someone Else Can Figure Out Something I Guess This Will be The Fix For This Plug-In.

It Also Should Find More Cover Art Since There Was A Bug With One Of The Sites In The Last version.

It Also Adds A Better Configuration Method
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2003, 11:08:59 pm »

King,

While you are making changes to the Cover Art Finder, would you please change it so that it does not display a Message box during initialisation saying that I have the latest version?

It is good to check for an update, but I would rather only have to do something when I need to do something - rather than click a box to acknowledge that I need do nothing!

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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2003, 12:23:03 am »

RMB - check the options for the plugin - u can already disable this.
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2003, 01:48:51 am »

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King,

While you are making changes to the Cover Art Finder, would you please change it so that it does not display a Message box during initialisation saying that I have the latest version?

It is good to check for an update, but I would rather only have to do something when I need to do something - rather than click a box to acknowledge that I need do nothing!

Thanks


Look On the SetUp Page There Has Always Been An Option To Turn That Message off.
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2003, 02:42:53 am »

KingS -

Would it be possible to write a plug-in that used the track name and artist to find the album name from the web and write to it to the file ?

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2003, 02:45:48 am »

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KingS -

Would it be possible to write a plug-in that used the track name and artist to find the album name from the web and write to it to the file ?

Jim


I Take It You Did Not Try This Version Yet.

It's In The New Version.

It Would Be Best If You Use The Album Name - Track Name Combo.
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Re: To King - Plugin Problem
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2003, 04:03:32 am »

I had a problem with the latest release and had to un/re-install and I've just noticed that I've lost all the plug-in's.

I'll download them again and give it a try

Thanks for replying...

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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2003, 04:12:40 am »

you may get a message from "Chart Finder" since that has not and will not be updated untill I get done ripping Lyrics finder out of it.

Also MC9.1 Sill Has A Year Bug In It That Changes Blank Dates To "1899" When You Read Them From The Database. So There Is No Point In Messing With It Right Now.
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