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richard-ec2:
I am using MC23 on a Windows 10 PC hooked up to an Anthem MRX 520 A/V receiver.

My problem is, I can't enhance the sound of my 2.0 channel stereo files using the surround effects on my A/V receiver (AnthemLogic-Music, Dolby Pro Logic and DTS Neo) because JRiver doesn't output these files as 2.0 channel files - it outputs them as 5.1 files, and therefore these effects are not available.

I already figured out why this is happening. In DSP, I have the Output Format checked and "Channels" set to "5.1 channels" with "No upmixing or downmixing". It has to be this way because this is the only way I can get JRiver to play back multichannel files with 5.0 or 4.1 or 4.0 channels.

This wouldn't happen if I could simply set the Output Format to play the source number of channels. But, using search, I can see that this has been the subject of numerous other threads and for whatever reason this function doesn't work in JRiver - it only allows you to play files with 2.0 channels or 5.1 channels and it leaves you unable to play files with 5.0 or 4.1 or 4.0 channels.

Can anyone offer a solution?

Incidentally, if I uncheck the Output Format, 2.0 channel files then play correctly, but of course I can't then play 5.0 or 4.1 or 4.0 channel files! And I can't change this setting on the fly because I'm using JRemote.

blgentry:
I have a MUCH older Anthem AVM-20.  Seemed like an amazing creation at the time.  Now more like a museum piece!  Anyway...

There's a rather elegant and sort of easy solution to your problem:  Zones and Zone Switch Rules.

Make a new zone and give it a name that indicates that it is your two channel zone.  Use the exact same audio device as the original zone.  Now, set up *that* zone in DSP Studio to use 2.0 channels.

Next, configure zone switch with a rule that triggers on number of channels.  Some thing like, if it's two channels send it to the 2 channel zone.  Otherwise, send it to your original zone.

There's some documentation on this in the Wiki, but you probably can figure it out yourself; it's pretty straight forward.

Oh, make sure to set up your zone switch rule so that it stops playback in one zone when the other zone is triggered.  I.e.  stop the multi-channel zone, when a 2.0 channel song triggers the 2 channel zone.

Good luck.

Brian.

BillT:
Probably not going to help, but I had this problem with my Meridian HD621 and found that the issue was that the audio device bit depth was set to something odd, like '24 bit integer in a 32 bit package'.

Selecting automatic now sends the correct channels to the HD621 (output format set to 'source number of channels') without having to use complex work rounds.

richard-ec2:

--- Quote from: BillT on September 03, 2017, 10:50:11 am ---Probably not going to help, but I had this problem with my Meridian HD621 and found that the issue was that the audio device bit depth was set to something odd, like '24 bit integer in a 32 bit package'.

Selecting automatic now sends the correct channels to the HD621 (output format set to 'source number of channels') without having to use complex work rounds.

--- End quote ---

Thanks but it's as I said, this only works when switching between 2.0 and 5.1. When JRiver says "Source number of channels", this only works for certain channel configurations and these don't include 5.0 (quite common in classical music) or the recent spate of quadraphonic reissues with a bass channel. If you try to play back a 5.0 file or a 4.1 file, it just freezes with the "Something went wrong with playback" error message.


--- Quote from: blgentry on September 03, 2017, 08:54:29 am ---There's a rather elegant and sort of easy solution to your problem:  Zones and Zone Switch Rules.

Make a new zone and give it a name that indicates that it is your two channel zone.  Use the exact same audio device as the original zone.  Now, set up *that* zone in DSP Studio to use 2.0 channels.

Next, configure zone switch with a rule that triggers on number of channels.  Some thing like, if it's two channels send it to the 2 channel zone.  Otherwise, send it to your original zone.

There's some documentation on this in the Wiki, but you probably can figure it out yourself; it's pretty straight forward.

Oh, make sure to set up your zone switch rule so that it stops playback in one zone when the other zone is triggered.  I.e.  stop the multi-channel zone, when a 2.0 channel song triggers the 2 channel zone.
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I was afraid you were going to say that! I appreciate the helpful guide and will have a go over the next few days but I know nothing about zones and all the time I'll be muttering to myself, "Why am I having to do this?" I know it's been said before but if only the "Source number of channels" feature worked as it should, it would save a lot of threads like this one!

Fitzcaraldo215:
Relax.  Zones are quite simple.  Set up your stereo and Mch zones.  Elapsed time, including your reading and research time = under 5 minutes.  Switch between those 2 zones manually for awhile. After you tire of that, you will realize in under 5 additional minutes how simple Zoneswitch is.  Problem solved forever.

The major problem with Source Number of Channels is the metadata on the recordings.  It is an integer field.  So, it represents 5.0 channels as 5, but 5.1 channel recordings have the integer value 6, not 5.1.  That is not JRiver's doing.  And, while rare, I am guessing there may possibly be some 6 channel files out there, which should be treated as 6.0, not 5.1.

The real problem is that Source Number of Channels sure as heck SEEMS to be the right thing to do, but it isn't. And, it is not going to work the way you want it to.

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