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Future of Video Support On MC for Mac
blgentry:
Scaling is explicitly supported by MadVR and Kodi in the form of Bicubic, Lanczos, and others. That's what I'm asking about with #1. I'm certain you are aware that presenting video at 24 fps to displays that are not refreshing at integer multiples of 24 causes motion problems. That's what I'm asking about with #2: The ability to either do judder reduction, or to explicitly be able to transform one frame rate to another by saying "hey my display is 60Hz, please transform all video to 60Hz so it looks the best it can look."
By color spaces, I was referring to the chroma settings like 4:2:0 for example. I must have used the wrong term.
But I don't know why I'm even bothering to explain. Your reaction and your last sentence say it all: Video is not important in MC for Mac and will likely never receive much attention. It will certainly never equal madvr + lav. Because that exists on windows already and you think everyone who wants to do MC video should use windows. It's disappointing, but not surprising. So I'll be using something else for video in the near future.
It really is too bad. I've spent the last few years heralding MC as the best Media Player for Mac and for most any other platform. I've spent thousands of hours on this forum providing support for what I hoped would become *the* HTPC platform on Mac. I'm insulted by your response.
I guess I'll have to change my story when it comes to playing video on a Mac. Kodi looks way better playing video than MC does. I may just give up on MC altogether.
Brian.
mattkhan:
what resolution are you using for playback?
JimH:
23.0.70 is on the Download Page. Sorry. It should also be on the Mac23 board.
Hendrik:
I never said its not going to get improved, but having an expectation of catching up with Windows/madVR is just unrealistic, and comparing to "Red October Standard" is a more realistic goal.
You have to realize that developing a high-quality video renderer like madVR has taken years already (and the video renderer in Kodi probably has a similar amount of time behind it), and requires quite specialized knowledge, years that MC for Windows benefits from "for free", and that Mac or Linux can't just re-invent in a month, or even a year.
JimH:
--- Quote from: blgentry on October 14, 2017, 10:21:11 am ---Scaling is explicitly supported by MadVR and Kodi in the form of Bicubic, Lanczos, and others. That's what I'm asking about with #1. I'm certain you are aware that presenting video at 24 fps to displays that are not refreshing at integer multiples of 24 causes motion problems. That's what I'm asking about with #2: The ability to either do judder reduction, or to explicitly be able to transform one frame rate to another by saying "hey my display is 60Hz, please transform all video to 60Hz so it looks the best it can look."
By color spaces, I was referring to the chroma settings like 4:2:0 for example. I must have used the wrong term.
But I don't know why I'm even bothering to explain. Your reaction and your last sentence say it all: Video is not important in MC for Mac and will likely never receive much attention. It will certainly never equal madvr + lav. Because that exists on windows already and you think everyone who wants to do MC video should use windows. It's disappointing, but not surprising. So I'll be using something else for video in the near future.
It really is too bad. I've spent the last few years heralding MC as the best Media Player for Mac and for most any other platform. I've spent thousands of hours on this forum providing support for what I hoped would become *the* HTPC platform on Mac. I'm insulted by your response.
I guess I'll have to change my story when it comes to playing video on a Mac. Kodi looks way better playing video than MC does. I may just give up on MC altogether.
Brian.
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Brian,
Everyone here (JRiver and the forum) is aware of all the help you have been to us and to other people.
But, I think you're too often assigning blame to others. Hendrik was trying to be helpful. I believe what he said is correct. I don't believe he meant in any way to insult you. Your previous comment about his level of concern for video on a Mac may have irritated him. I thought it was unnecessary and untrue.
Maybe you could use a few days off.
If you decide to quit the forum, I know you will be missed.
Jim
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