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syndromeofadown:
Thanks for links Bill Kearney. Here is another one that looks interesting:
https://gist.github.com/davidzou2131/aca97ac6a9d5ee01f3362529e6799b58

--- Quote ---This script losslessly remuxes the mp4 (m4a) into a new mp4 container.
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I may give it a try when I have some time. Likely not soon. If it works I can write a up a guide.

Even though it doesn't get all personal info out, I still think my previous feature request is a good idea.

--- Quote ---I'd like to request that an option gets added to Remove Tags that allows users to exclude certain fields.
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JimH:
Just a word of advice.  You're in an area that may be a legal problem.  I know that sounds ridiculous, but it may be covered by the DMCA, if Apple can be considered to be "protecting" their files.

Bill Kearney:

--- Quote from: JimH on October 31, 2017, 06:19:12 am ---Just a word of advice.  You're in an area that may be a legal problem.  I know that sounds ridiculous, but it may be covered by the DMCA, if Apple can be considered to be "protecting" their files.

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Thus another reason I prefer not to do business with companies that behave that way.  I get it, there's costs associated with producing material.  And all the people involved in the production/distribution of it deserve compensation.  To what amount, and by what egregious percentages, is another matter. 

syndromeofadown:

--- Quote ---Just a word of advice.  You're in an area that may be a legal problem.  I know that sounds ridiculous, but it may be covered by the DMCA, if Apple can be considered to be "protecting" their files.
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Thanks Jim. I will research this. I wasn't aware of how deep the embedded personal information went when I started this topic. I just wanted to clean up some tags I have no use for.

From my current understanding of Canadian Copyright Act there is no issue with removing tags from purchased audio. There is no civil or criminal infringement, no commercial advantage or private financial gain, no distribution, no losses to the copyright owner.

We do have very restrictive digital lock rules
Digital lock is:

--- Quote ---    any effective technology, device or component that controls access to a work (“access control”), and
    any effective technology, device or component that restricts one from exercising the exclusive rights of a copyright owner or remuneration rights, i.e. that control the reproduction or copying of a work (“copying control”).

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Digital locks don't seam to apply to this situation either. They would however apply to pre 2009 DRM'd itunes music files.
They were allowed to be unlocked prior to 2012.
In the 5 years of having digital locks rules there has only been one case. Nintendo just sued a man for selling mod chips.
Again, I'm no expert and I will research further.


--- Quote ---Thus another reason I prefer not to do business with companies that behave that way.
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The only thing I buy from itunes are exclusives, maybe 2 albums a year. I feel like I'm being punished for purchasing from them.
I still buy CDs most of the time, I feel punished for buying them too. I typically receive them 3 weeks after their release date.

Bill Kearney:
I'd imagine the legal arguments are perhaps more of a concern for the publisher of a tool, than an end-user/customer.  Not that I'm suggesting you break the licensing agreements foisted on you.  Me, I know better than to get mired in that kind of nonsense and skip Apple as a source entirely.

Providing functionality that invites the hostility from a demonstrably litigious company (aka Apple) is probably not something any small software vendor wants to invite.  Whether doing so is legal or not doesn't matter as much as the depth of your pockets to defend it.  No doubt they'd prefer to spend money elsewhere. 

One 'thought experiment' that comes to mind... get two copies of the purchased tracks from separate accounts.  Use the scripts to remove the offending tags.  Then go an do a file comparison to see if the tracks differ.  I'm guessing they might.  As in, there's likely other purchaser-identifying info buried elsewhere in the media too.

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