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[rec head]

I just installed an Asus GTX1060 6GB to replace my GTX750Ti. Now I'm having some trouble getting everything setup. I feel like I'm just Googling in circles trying to figure it out.

Regular 1080P content is playing back without a problem at high settings.

3D content used to work now it does not. -Maybe because of desktop resolution?

I only have Deadpool UHD ripped and it drops a lot of frames and does not raise the HDR flag on my LG OLED.

MC version is 23.0.91
Nvidia drivers are the latest
Windows is up to date
madVR is updated to v0.92.10
In madVR settings I selected "passthrough HDR content to the display."
I am not using FSE mode.

Any help is appreciated.

[tij]

I got Gigabit 1070 and LG E6 ... and went through what you going through now (journey not completed yet though)

On TV side ... All Settings -> General -> HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Colour ... turn on on HDMI port you using

Also on All Inputs I set HDMI port to PC

OS side ... in NVIDIA Control Panel ... I set my desktop on 3840x2160, 60hz, 8bpc, RGB Full output dynamic range ... also under Set Up Stereoscopic 3D I enable stereoscopic 3D (it took me through some calibration wizard)

I fiddle with MadVR a lot ... so to get from point zero, I restored MadVR setting to default ... %appdata%\J River\Media Center 23\Plugins\madvr ... default settings.bat

JRiver options -> Video -> Enable 3D BlueRay and MKV 3D decoding check

MadVR
Rendering -> delay playback check ... enable automatic full screen exclusive mode check
stereo3D -> enable stereo 3D check

At this point lots of ppl say 3D works for them

My 3Ds are MVC rips to mkv ... 3D was unpredictable for me at this point  ... sometimes it went correctly to 1080p MVC (so can switch between 2D and 3D on television) ... sometimes it went 1080p but rendered SBS ... sometimes it went 4k with SBS

So I rename all my MKV to MK3D ... created profiles for display mode in MadVR under devices

If (fileExt = “mk3d”) “3D” else “Normal”

In 3D profile for display mode I only allow MadVR to switch to 1080p23 (as all BD 3D are in this format anyway)

In Nirnal profile I let that field blank

Now it works for me

For HDR .. in MadVR devices->hdr ... I set pass through ... TV switches to HDR when HDR rips are playing ... problem I have now ... TV stays in HDR once movie stops ... everything looks saturated ... have to quit JRiver for TV to restore SDR

[_mulder]

I only have Deadpool UHD ripped and it drops a lot of frames and does not raise the HDR flag on my LG OLED.

MC version is 23.0.91
Nvidia drivers are the latest
Windows is up to date
madVR is updated to v0.92.10
In madVR settings I selected "passthrough HDR content to the display."
I am not using FSE mode.

Any help is appreciated.

From everything I have read so far, latest NVidia drivers still have issues with HDR. You should install 385.69

[rec head]

Thanks for the pointers. I'll try them as soon as I get a chance.

After some searching I did roll back my Nvidia driver 385.69. Now the TV recognizes that it is getting 3D but the image doesn't really look 3D. The image looks good with glasses on but it doesn't really look 3D. I tried several titles. It is weird. I also get non-3D material putting the TV into 3D mode and then switching out of it.

I can get the HDR notification on the TV but can't get the 4K video to play. I also have the same problem of HDR mode on the TV staying active and the colors being over saturated.

It is amazing how much time I waste on this stuff but the cold has me staying inside anyway.

[tij]

What are your 3D files? mkv rips from BluRays (MVC encoded)? or side by side/top bottom stuff?

[Manfred]

I have also LG OLED and I can play HDR with no problems - but I don't use 3D.
I also set madVR to pass HDR and let LG OLED do HDR.
I have not set HDMI Port to PC. Does that  make a difference?

[tij]

from what I have read ... setting HDMI to PC on LG OLED allows that port to receive RGB or 4:4:4 signal (I could be wrong)

[rec head]

What are your 3D files? mkv rips from BluRays (MVC encoded)? or side by side/top bottom stuff?

Ripped in Makemkv and they worked fine prior to the upgrade.

[tij]

Just installed Fall Creators Update ... everything is screwed now  (black screen when playing video ... etc etc) ... reinstall NVIDIA drivers ... reinstalled MC23 ... seems to solve black screen ... now trying to get 3D working

[rec head]

Just installed Fall Creators Update ... everything is screwed now  (black screen when playing video ... etc etc) ... reinstall NVIDIA drivers ... reinstalled MC23 ... seems to solve black screen ... now trying to get 3D working

Are you using the latest Nvidia driver?

[tij]

atm ... yes ... latest NVIDIA drivers (will see if need to roll back for HDR to unstick after watching movies)

can only get 3D working in Exclusive ... and 2D movies in Overlay (without overlay ... 2D movies get black screen after few seconds of play ... if movie is stopped ... that black screen is stuck)

[tij]

very strange ... watching 3D MKV ... whether exclusive (3D works) or overlayed (only 2D works) ... when stop movie and return to standard view, desktop restores to 60Hz ... exit JRiver and desktop switches to 23Hz ... only happens after watching 3D MKV ... cant figure what causes it

[rec head]

Still using the Nvidia 385.69 driver. I copied the Max Quality settings from this post on Doom9 https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=171787 Checked all the 3D settings. Set HDR to passthrough. Turned Deep Color on the LG OLED on. And I'm almost there. 3D is working.

I'm still dropping frames when watching the 4k movie but it is almost watchable. It looks like the problem is that the 4K is being downscaled and sent to the TV as 1080P. Once I figure out how to stop that I should be OK.

[tij]

Just to be on same page, I am using MC 23.091 (64 bit) on Fall Creators Update with GTX1070 running latest 390.65 driver (HDR turning off after stopping movie seems to work fine under FCU)

With FCU comes extra settings in Windows Display Settings... HDR and 3D (i leave HDR off as recommended by others)

So now 3D setting in OS appear in 2 places ... (a) NVIDIA Control Panel ... and (b) Windows Display Settings

switching 3D in (a) automatically sets correspomdonding setting in (b)

turning off 3D in (b) turns off 3D in (a) ... BUT turning on 3D in (b) does NOT turn on 3D in (a)

you need 3D to be turn on in (a) and running exclusive mode under MadVR rendering option for PC to send frame packed video to TV. So on TV you can toggle between 2D and 3D on remote control

if 3D is not on in (a) or you are not running in exclusive mode, 2 thing can happen ... PC either send SBS signal to TV (cannot watch in 2D) ... or PC sends 2D signal to TV (TV does not recognise it as 3D signal and ask to convert 2D to 3D when switched to 3D mode)

in all instances MadVR picks D3D11 to render

it was mentioned in other discussion that exclusive mode does not work anymore after FCU (not entirely true ... as it works and required for 3D) ... so if you set your MadVR to exclusive, 2D stuff will show black screen when they enter exclusive mode

if you untick everything in MadVR -> rendering -> general settings ... 2D tuff will run in D3D9 fulcreen window (HDR is correcty recognised by TV but you get only 8 bit as I understand)

to get 10 bit you need exclusive or D3D11 ... D3D11 crashes MC23 when 3D is enabled in (a)

so i thought to create profiles in MadVR for 3D (exclusive) ... 2D (D3D11) ... and use MadVr -> rendering -> stereo 3D option to turn OS 3D setting on/off when needed

now the bummer ... MadVr -> rendering -> stereo 3D option to turn OS 3D setting on/off only toggles settings in (b) ... and here is where i am stuck now

[tij]

I got mine working and posted setting in another discussion

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,113941.0.html

best to reset your madVR settings to default before trying those settings ... then if it works ... change each setting one by one and see how it turns out

changing all setting at once for best picture is troublesome ... if it does not work ... then hard to figure which setting is causing the problem

[tij]

rec head ... got your PM but have no idea how to attached files in PM

so to help you out could you tell me you 1060 driver version as well as windows version and build (run winver)

also some description of the problem for 3D and UHD

[tij]

here is my madVR settings ... things to be aware

I run Windows 10 ver 1709 build 16299.125 (run winver to find out yours) ... 1070 with 360.95
MC 23.0.91 64 bit with madVR ver0.92.10
my 3D are named .mk3D (use in MadVR to distinguish 3D content ... there are other ways to do that too)
TV is LG E6

everything is working UHD, 3D, HD, SD ... but i need to do some tricks at Windows sart up
dont want to go into details as it can create confusion if our problems are unrelated

my seggestion ... reset MadVR settings to default ... then get UHD and 3D and HD working ... only then play around with MadVR image refinement settings to see how far you can push your GPU without frame drops

[tij]

After updating Windows 10 yesterday HDR isn't working as nicely. The HDR flag gets sent to the TV for almost everything and it looks bad. Somehow Windows HDR setting keeps getting turned on.

my guess (without knowing version and build of your WIndows 10 ... you can check it by running winver) ... is that your Windows has not been upgraded to Fall Creators Update (1709)

before i updated my windows to 1709 ... after playing HDR movie ... HDR got stuck ... meaning TV stay on HDR after movie stop ... all colours look overly saturated

this problem dissapeared for me once updated to 1709 ... Windows did not update automatically though to 1709 even though my setting were set to automatically update my Windows ... I have to manually go to Miscrosoft website and update my Windows to 1709

also update your NVIDIA drivers to latest version (mine atm is 360.95) ... as AwesomeDonkey mentioned, it contains fix to Spectre2 vulnerability

my advice is to reset MadVR settings to default (there is a .bat file in MadVR folder that does that) ... and get 3D and 2D (including UHD) working first before modifying upscalers for best picture quality (frame drops are usually indication of setting too high quality in MadVR that your GPU cannot handle fast enough)

after resetting MadVR settings ... set up "devices" in MadVR according to your TV (HDR passthrough) ... from what i remember, this will get all videos running nicely in JRiver ... HDR will no longer get stuck ... at this point I recall that only 3D was not working consistently

let me know if its same for you ... then I can help you to trouble shoot how to get 3D working

[rec head]

So after HDR getting crazy after Windows 10 updated I updated my Nvidia driver and it seems to be working again.

Now to get 3D working again.

My setup is:
Windows 10 v1709 build 16299.192,
MC 23.0.94 64 bit,
Nvidia 1060, driver version390.65,
TV is a 2016 LG E6

When my desktop is set to 3840 60Hz HD (1080P) and UHD (3840) play fine but 3D doesn't work. MadVR settings are at the basic except HDR passthrough is checked. Windows HDR setting is OFF.

3D on this TV is so good that I'd really like to get it working again.

[tij]

3D on 2016 LG OLED is indeed stunning ... I had Samsung D8000 before, 3D was terrible there (probably what killed 3D as Samsung had more TV sales) ... but that's a separate discussion

SO it does seems your trouble is same as mine ... I will post steps to remedy it ... see https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,113941.0.html for full discussion about it

reset your MadVR setting to default ... then madVR setting these are bare bone necessary setting to get it working:

[rendering -> stereo 3d]
enable stereo 3d playback: check
when playing 2D content: disable os stereo 3d support for all displays
when playing 3d content: enable
retore os stereo 3d setting when media player is closed: uncheck (dont think this part matter ... just personal preference)

create profile for [rendering -> general setting]

one for 3D ... check enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode and delay playback start until rendere queue is full
one for 2D ... check use Direct3D 11/present frame for every VSync and delay playback start until rendere queue is full

my 3D files have extension mk3d ... so profile switching logic is simple

if (fileExt = "mk3d") "name of 3D profile" else "name of 2D profile"

... now the hard part (this had to be done everytime windows restart)

(1)in nvidia control panel(cpl) i set 1080p23 with 3d off
in windows cpl 3d off too (hdr off too)
   
(2)close both cpl and then restart computer ... once restarted i wait till everything loads (not sure if thats necessary)

then i open both windows and nvidia cpl

in windows cpl, turn on 3D ... nvidia cpl will automatically on 3D too

(3) then in nvidia cpl change resolution to 4k 60Hz 32 bit RGB 8bpc fulldynamic

(4) then in windows cpl turn 3D off ... nvidia cpl will automatically update 3D off

(5) then in windows cpl turn 3D on... nvidia cpl will automatically update 3D on ...

now 3D setting is link between NVIDIA and Windows ... so madVR can switch it

Final step ... if i use 4K resolution for windows and turn TV off ... that 3D link gets broken ... if yours does same, then only option is to run Windows in 1080p23 or 1080p24 ... so your MC will be in HD ... but when playing movies it will switch to 4K ... not a too terrible trade off to get it working

Let me know how it goes

[tij]

wait ... before you try what I suggested before ... try this first (one guy reported it was working for him)

set your destop to 4k@60 and enable 3D in both windows and nvidia cpl

leave madVR setting at default ... then set follow

[rendering -> stereo 3d]
enable stereo 3d playback: check

[rendering -> general setting]

check use Direct3D 11/present frame for every VSync and delay playback start until rendere queue is full (this crashes my MC when playing 2D stuff ... but it worked for other guy)

[Z0001]

I only have Deadpool UHD ripped and it drops a lot of frames and does not raise the HDR flag on my LG OLED

How did you rip a UHD movie have I missed some development?

[tij]

deuhd ... bloody expensive though

[rec head]

Thanks tij I'll try it today.

I'm using makeMKV to rip and it has now been able to rip all of my UHD's

[rec head]

wait ... before you try what I suggested before ... try this first (one guy reported it was working for him)

set your destop to 4k@60 and enable 3D in both windows and nvidia cpl

leave madVR setting at default ... then set follow

[rendering -> stereo 3d]
enable stereo 3d playback: check

[rendering -> general setting]

check use Direct3D 11/present frame for every VSync and delay playback start until rendere queue is full (this crashes my MC when playing 2D stuff ... but it worked for other guy)

I only tried playing 2D with this configuration and my system went into a tailspin. Multiple madVR resets, Windows restarts, and an MC re-install later I have 2D working again.

I'll try your other option when I get the chance.

[tij]

the guy who mention it was working never said what version of Windows 10 he used ... since it is not working for you ... i suspect it was not FCU

FCU and NVIDIA on my machine have several thing that makes it hard to set up

1. 3D only works if NVIDIA control panel (cpl) has 3D setting enabled ... works both in exclusive and windowed D3D11
1. 4k exclusive mode does not work (both D3D9 and D3D11)  ... when entering exclusive mode, my screen turns black ... need to terminate MC for black screen to go away
2. 4K D3D9 works in windowed mode (Direct 3D 11 unchecked in MadVR) irrespective of 3D setting ... but you get only 8bit
3. 4K D3D11 in windowed mode works (Direct 3D 11 check in MadVR get 10bit with this one) only if 3D setting is off in NVIDIA cpl ... if 3D setting is on in NVIDIA cpl, MC crashes

you can test above by manually changing MadVR settings and 3D setting in NVIDIA control panel

to do this automatically, it seems logical to have MadVR toggle OS 3D setting on and off when needed ... but here where trouble is for me

MadVR toggles 3D settings in Display Properties of Windows, which should automatically toggle NVIDIA cpl setting ... but depending how you started Windows, it might not

easy to test if your current session is working correctly ... open both NVIDIA cpl and OS Display property ... in NVIDIA cpl go to 3D stereoscopic settings ... now toggle 3D switch in OS Display property ... if NVIDIA cpl does not change accordingly ... then link is not working ... once link is not working, i could not find way to restore link ... need Window restart

NVIDIA has 4 3D resolutions ... 720p23, 720p24,1080p23,1080p24 ... if i start windows in non 3D resolution (aka 4k), 3D link between NVIDIA and Display properties start off broken

hence as descripe before i start Windows in 1080p23 with 3D settings off in NVIDIA and Display propertis ... then do all those steps ... and it sticks

finally turning off my E6 tv causes 3D link to be broken if resolution is non 3d when this happens ... hence i run my Windows in 1080p23 .... have MC to change to 4k when needed, and revert back to 1080p23 once movie is finished

hopefully that explains all the steps i described before to get my set up working (i find if you understand why things not working ... its easier to understand and troubleshoot problems)

[TheShoe]

this is a great summary and matches my experience.

however instead of starting windows in 1080p23, i boot up in 4k.

when i want to watch a 3D movie, I just enable 3D in the nVidia CPL, then play the movie.  when I'm done, I uncheck the 3D setting

majority of my watching is in 2D, so it's a minor inconvenience.

[rec head]

Thanks. Every time I think I'll have time to mess around with the settings I don't.

[tij]

Doing step I described earlier ... make 3D setting of NVIDIA to stick with 3D setting of Windows display setting. This allow automatic toggling of 3D setting from MadVR [rendering -> stereo 3D] ... so when 3D movie is played, JRiver sends 3D movie to TV ... then it’s matter of pressing 3D button on TV remote to choose if want to see this in 3D or 2D.

Manual switching is not option for me ... gets my wife confused when I am not around lol

[rec head]

I finally got around to playing with the settings again. Tij, I used the MadVR settings you posted. I only renamed 1 of my 3D movies to MK3D. I did not try all the other steps for automatic switching but restarting in 1080p plays all my movies just fine. I will just leave the computer in UHD and restart when I want 3D. I don't use it enough to screw around with it anymore. Hopefully things get sorted out better.

[tij]

if automatic switching of 3d is not what you after ... do not need to restart computer ... just do what TheShoe does ... when want to watch 3D, just go to NVIDIA setting and turn 3D on manually ... when finish watching 3D ... just switch it off (so that your 2D movies continue to work)

[rec head]

I'll try again but I needed to restart.

[TheShoe]

if automatic switching of 3d is not what you after ... do not need to restart computer ... just do what TheShoe does ... when want to watch 3D, just go to NVIDIA setting and turn 3D on manually ... when finish watching 3D ... just switch it off (so that your 2D movies continue to work)

on occasion, when I am done playing back a 4K+HDR video, JRiver/madVR loses video to the TV.  I have to remote desktop into the PC and have it change something simple like 60 to 23Hz or resolution at which point it restores video output to the TV.  I also notice that font sizes seem off (smaller).  it's as if once the player stops it's not restoring the video back to what it was prior to playback.

I'm also sticking with the 385.69 nVidia drivers.  so far they seem to be the most stable for this setup.

[fitbrit]

on occasion, when I am done playing back a 4K+HDR video, JRiver/madVR loses video to the TV.  I have to remote desktop into the PC and have it change something simple like 60 to 23Hz or resolution at which point it restores video output to the TV.  I also notice that font sizes seem off (smaller).  it's as if once the player stops it's not restoring the video back to what it was prior to playback.

I'm also sticking with the 385.69 nVidia drivers.  so far they seem to be the most stable for this setup.

I am seeing this too. I was worried that it was my new TV that was the issue, but it seems like it might be the drivers. I am on the latest version 397.93

[turbofeet]

Thanks for this post was having similar issues.

I also had to change Hardware Accelerate video decoding too in JRiver as it was thrashing the CPU.

I guess it's using the Graphics Card now as it should.

[rec head]

I know some of you have similar setups so I thought I'd ask here about settings for playing 4K HDR rips.

Setup is HTPC w/1060 ->Denon 4300 -> 2016 LG OLED.

When I use RGB in the Nvidia settings I get random white noise and loose a lot of detail in the darkest areas of some content. It doesn't happen everywhere. The opening sequence in Shape of Water is a good example.

I noticed the white sparkles a while back and immediately thought it was the cable. Bought new ones and it didn't help. I've had similar HDMI issues in the past and I still thought it was an HDMI issue so I bought an HDMI splitter to go between the HTPC and AVR. Voila! It worked, sparkles gone. Then some months later after some messing with video settings the sparkles came back. While testing I realized I was missing a lot of detail in those dark scenes. Since it was always new content that I was watching I didn't know until switching back and forth.

I don't know if different versions of the drivers are causing this or what exactly the problem is. It is possible that the splitter didn't do anything but that I had changed a setting or driver and not viewed the troubled content until after getting the switch.

The question is are those of you with similar setups using RGB mode in the Nvidia settings?

[tij]

I had a sparkles with HDMI 4K cables … tried different brands and length … still sparkles (only on highest setting … 4k RGB @60fps)
 
was considering those super duper expensive Monster cables ... but then gave a shot to CERTIFIED HDMI cable (choose correct certification) ... no more troubles anymore (cable is 1.5m long)

basically CERTIFIED cables guarantee speed ... lousy so called 4K HDMI cables only work for BluRay players as those only do 4K at 4:2:2 at 23fps (but connect those to PC and run RGB at 60fps ... and all hell starts)

I have no problems with black levels running in MadVR ... desktop had a problem with blacks (look more grey ... especially when supposedly black screen saver screen show) ... solved that by setting [dynamic range] to full in NVIDIA control panel

[rec head]

Thanks. I really don't think it is the cables. It seems settings or more likely settings+drivers based.

[tij]

One way to test if it’s cable ... is to drop resolution to 1080p60 RGB or 4:4:4 ... if no sparkles ... then likely cable has not enough bandwidth to do 2160p60 RGB, and information get lost ... hence sparkles

[stricko]

Just done a bit of an upgrade (projector to Optoma UHD51 and graphics card to GT1030) and was looking forward to 4k and UHD playback, but I've run into the same problems as people seem to be having on this thread. Set PC display to 4k, 4k stuff plays fine, 3d is displayed SBS, but projector doesn't recognise it as 3d. Set display to 1080p, 3d is fine, 4k is downscaled (as you'd expect). Sound familier?

I was sort of hoping that MC would deal with it all automatically, but I guess that is not the case.

I'll be having a play with some of the ideas in this (and other) threads, and I'll let you know how I'm getting on. (W10/64 up to date and latest Nvidia drivers). Cheers

[rec head]

I wish I could help but I seriously have no clue why it all of a sudden works for me.

[tij]

Just done a bit of an upgrade (projector to Optoma UHD51 and graphics card to GT1030) and was looking forward to 4k and UHD playback, but I've run into the same problems as people seem to be having on this thread. Set PC display to 4k, 4k stuff plays fine, 3d is displayed SBS, but projector doesn't recognise it as 3d. Set display to 1080p, 3d is fine, 4k is downscaled (as you'd expect). Sound familier?

I was sort of hoping that MC would deal with it all automatically, but I guess that is not the case.

I'll be having a play with some of the ideas in this (and other) threads, and I'll let you know how I'm getting on. (W10/64 up to date and latest Nvidia drivers). Cheers

there is no standard for 4k 3D ... so for frame pack 3D you need to output at 1080p (otherwise MadVR wil do top bottom if you try to play frane pack to 4K... or was it sbs ... dont remember)

there is option in MC Video Option that allows MC to switch video mode automatically  ... if that fails to switch automatically ... then need to define separate profile in MadVR for 3D so it forces output to 1080p23 when 3D is detected

[stricko]

Thanks tij. I'm learning (a lot) as I go along here.

The automatic Display Setting option has been a real godsend since it was launched but from what I can read in the wiki, it's going to be too limited to crack this one. I've always used it in auto mode, which has been great; it happily deals with differing frame rates. But it seems to only able to group all videos with similar frame rates together. So there is a single option for all video at 23.976fps which I could use to force the display back to 1080p for 3d stuff. But I also have 4k files at 23.976fps.

I'm guessing that the categories for the custom Display Settings are based only on fps, and are defined within the software somewhere. It would be great if these were a) accessible, and b) configurable to allow factors other than fps. I stumbled across old archived wiki stuff that talked about setting display options at a file level. Was that all pre-Red October, or is it still about somewhere.

So if I'm right, this sort of pushes me towards madVR.... gulp. Very new territory for me I'm afraid, and a quick glance at the stuff on doom9 just confirms how little I know / have to learn. Is there a primer somewhere on how to set up Custom Video modes / madvr profiles? Ideally I like to continue using automatic detection / adjustment, but with an exception process to handle 3d.

And this is all just for 3d, I've yet to tackle the 4k issues (green video etc.)

Thanks again

[RoderickGI]

I don't have a complete list of settings for supporting 4K and 1080p 3D, but I have it working, based on various threads around here. A couple of hints:

Don't use the Auto setting in MC Display Switching. Use the "Custom" setting and set the 4K resolutions you want. Do not concern yourself about 3D with these settings. Sure, Auto should work, but Custom made it work for me.

Find the 3D thread and only set what is specified for 3D. That basically means a couple of settings in madVR. You do not need to use madVR profiles. madVR will switch to 1080p when it detects 3D. Or at least I believe it is madVR doing the switch.

There is a bunch of other stuff, particularly if you want to set your Desktop to 4K as I have, but the above is a start.

[rec head]

So if I'm right, this sort of pushes me towards madVR.... gulp. Very new territory for me I'm afraid, and a quick glance at the stuff on doom9 just confirms how little I know / have to learn. Is there a primer somewhere on how to set up Custom Video modes / madvr profiles? Ideally I like to continue using automatic detection / adjustment, but with an exception process to handle 3d.

And this is all just for 3d, I've yet to tackle the 4k issues (green video etc.)

Thanks again

I agree. I have messed with madVR a fair amount but don't feel like I have much of a grasp on it.

For a while I was manually changing MC's Display Switching when going from 4K which is now my normal view to 1080 for 3D. Like I said before for some reason now it all works. When I get a chance I'll get some screen shots of my Display Switching settings and my madVR settings.

[tij]

I agree. I have messed with madVR a fair amount but don't feel like I have much of a grasp on it.

For a while I was manually changing MC's Display Switching when going from 4K which is now my normal view to 1080 for 3D. Like I said before for some reason now it all works. When I get a chance I'll get some screen shots of my Display Switching settings and my madVR settings.

Unfortunately 3D needs MadVR ... and frankly speaking MadVR has outstanding scaling quality (not to mention that for me it prevents Windows from doing dynamic contrast)

Ctr+J gives you a lot of info on whats happening when running RO HQ ... so screenshots of that helps to troubleshoot your problems

My advice ... set scaling options to lowest first and get everything working ... only then can try playing with different scaling to see whats is acceptable to you and what your hardware can handle

On my system everything is scaled to 4K but running at native frame rates (you can obviously output HD at 1080p and let TV scale it, if your hardware is not up to it) ... only 3D is output at 1080p

PS. people get confused a lot by scaling  (and options available in MadVR) … basically MadVR will do 2 scaling

first is chroma upscaling (content is usually provided in 4:2:0 … first 4 part is basically black and white image they call "luma" … 2:0 part indicates that some color info was ditch to save space and they call it "chroma") from 4:2:0 to 4:4:4

then is scaling to resolution you want to output ... its a 2 step process too ... luma is scaled and chroma is scaled to match resolution you want
 (ppl usually agree that quality of luma scaling is more important than quality of chroma scaling)

To this effect ... MadVR will have option for scaling 4:2:0 chroma to 4:4:4 (not so obvious in MadVR options) ... and option to scale to luma and chroma (this were people get confused as they thought they already set up that ... but in fact it was for 4:2:0 to 4:4:4) to match your output resolution