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MC doesn't behave nicely doing resource intensive tasks
dtc:
--- Quote from: steff on January 29, 2018, 05:38:00 pm ---
If I switch track in the middle while playing, I pretend that MC23 stops playing the old file immediately, loads the new file and start playing it just when fully loaded.
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You can just hit Stop before selecting the new file.
steff:
--- Quote from: dtc on January 30, 2018, 10:48:44 am ---You can just hit Stop before selecting the new file.
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I am really sorry to hear such answer.
Of course I can do that!!!
Of course I can even go back to my 30 € Raspberry and avoid to spend 400 € for a Windows laptop and 50 € for the MC license
Of course I can do many other things, but.... since MC IS NOT FREE and since I am paying for it, therefore if there is bug, it must be fixed... if there is a behaviour that can be improved, it must be improved... if there is a beahviour that is quite a nonsense even if it is not a real bug... and so on.
Again, of course I evaluated MC within the trial period, but... let me say that something can be always discovered after the trial.
Load full file into memory does not work and I spent days to demostrate such issue here and everybody was saying it was a problem of my PC or my NAS or my network. Finally we are sure that it is not working at all
It will be fixed next MC release. but when? I do not know.
Anyway... play from memory is something that an audio purist search for, to avoid to have network activities or disk access during playback. Stop. No more additional comments can be made.
Then why, having memory playback enabled, switching to another track does not stop automatically the player and starts to load the new file?
You can like it or not, but this shuld be the correct bahaviour.
if you do not like it, you can put a switch in the settings and let the end user to choose.
I already said that I like MC anyway because of the theatre view.
But since MC is not free, we must fix problems.
Usually end users are helped from the community when they deal with open source software.
Seems that with MC we have a not free software, but supported by the community.
steff:
--- Quote from: Spike1000 on January 30, 2018, 09:41:11 am ---If these (or at least one of them) turn out to be repeatable scenarios then...
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I tested this behaviour on all my laptops and appear whenever there is a quite intense or moderate network activity while playing at the same time.
Let me say that if memory playback is not enabled, then MC loads and plays the file little by little and there is no problem.
if memory playback is enabled then MC loads the file in a short time, loading for few seconds the network to the maximum allowed and if MC is playing... then I experience this behaviour.
RoderickGI:
--- Quote from: steff on January 29, 2018, 05:38:00 pm ---I just identified another case:
Load Full Album into memory enabled
Album stored on a NAS
I am playing a FLAC without problem, then, while playing, without waiting the end of the file, I switch to another file.
What happens?
While still playing the "old" file, MC23 starts to load into memory the new one and you can see the network usage to grow.
When the new file is finally fully loaded into memory, then MC23 stops to play the old one and switch to the new one.
So... when MC23 is in the middle, while still playing the old one but loading the new one, then MC23 GUI expands to the maximum, overlapping the Windows taskbar and becoming blurry.
Everything is restored when MC23 stop with the old file and switch to the new one.
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I just tried very hard to replicate this issue using Standard View first maximised, and then sized to fit in the middle of my screen. I assumed that the scenario above was in Standard View, because you mentioned Theatre View separately later.
Using my Workstation I imported eight albums each with 14 to 22 tracks directly from my HTPC MC Server, using a URI such as \\HTPC\Music\, so that the files have to be loaded over the network.
My 1Gbps network was still to fast and Albums loaded to quickly to force any issue, so I throttled my network connection to 10Mbps. I then always got the little "Loading Tracks" message windows in MC, and my network was 90 to 100% loaded until the next Album fully loaded. In fact the little message window closed before the Album was fully loaded, and Windows showed the mouse icon as the busy icon. If I clicked on something in MC I got the "MC is not responding" Windows dialogue and MC showed as bleached out behind the dialogue window. I clicked the "Wait for the program to respond" option and MC stayed bleached out until it caught up again by finishing loading the next Album and started playing it. Playback of music never stopped during this process.
The MC GUI (Standard View) never changed size, and while I could make it bleach out with the "Not responding" message, that only happened if I clicked something after clicking play for the second Album, and before the second Album finished loading. I don't think you are talking about the bleaching when you say MC becomes blurry, in which case I never saw that either.
I didn't do the test with Theatre View.
While you could, and many have, argue that MC should remain responsive and not "bleach out" when it is busy and something is clicked on, I don't think that is the issue you are raising here. Certainly there is no bleaching or "MC is not responding" Windows dialogue when all the user has done is click play on a second Album while one is already playing, and while using the "Load full album (not decoded) into memory" setting.
EDIT: Wait. I didn't have my Task Bar permanently displaying, but had it automatically hiding. So I changed it to always display and maximised MC then followed the scenario. What I observed was that as soon as the "Loading Tracks" message window closed, which happens before the Album load completes, MC expanded downward to cover the Task Bar. When loading finished and the second Album started playing, MC contracted upward to redisplay the Task Bar. That looks like a Windows issue, as I have seen that sort of thing before in other applications. MC didn't become blurry at any time when I did this.
So Steff, is that what you are seeing?
Regardless, could you make a video of the issue and post it to YouTube so we can see exactly what you are seeing. Start with nothing playing, play the first album, then click play for a second album, as per your scenario above.
dtc:
--- Quote from: steff on January 30, 2018, 05:30:35 pm ---
It will be fixed next MC release. but when? I do not know.
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The original problem with flac files is fixed in the current Beta release. Should be released shortly I assume.
By the way, I am just another user trying to help you find a solution.
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