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POLL: Do you use JRiver's Images?
RoderickGI:
If you delete a photo using the Google Photos App on Android, it is deleted from Google Photos on the web as well. Actually, when you delete in Android the photos are just moved to the "Bin", which allows undeleting for 60 days.
However, if you delete photos using another App, such as the "Album" App on my Sony Android phone, the photos are not deleted in Google Photos on the phone or on the web. So the photos on an Android phone obviously aren't managed as a global resource that all Apps can manipulate, and the Google Photos App includes additional functionality.
So if you use the Google Photos App on iPhone to delete photos (I assume that there is a Google Photos App in the Apple store, since there is a Backup and Sync from Google), it may delete on the web. But if you use another App to delete photos on the iPhone, and only use Backup and Sync from Google to sync the photos to Google Drive, then maybe it won't delete from the web.
Also, Google Photos has recently been sort of separated from Google Drive, in that Google Photos no longer has a view under Google Drive. But you can still show Google Photos under the "My Drive" view in Google Drive. So "Backup and Sync from Google" has to be set up to only sync your photos if this is what you want to do. By default it syncs everything on Google Drive.
Google also only stores original quality photos up to you free or paid limit of storage. Go over that limit and Google will unilaterally reduce the quality of the photos, to save space. So Google Drive is a great way to quickly get photos from a phone to the web, to a PC you can manage, but it is probably best them to copy those photos to another location on the PC, if you wish to retain lots of photos long-term at original quality, and then delete them from Google Photos.
The other issue with this setup is that every photo you take with you phone will appear within minutes on your HTPC. Is that a good idea? Maybe. Maybe not sometimes!
marko:
--- Quote ---The other issue with this setup is that every photo you take with you phone will appear within minutes on your HTPC. Is that a good idea? Maybe. Maybe not sometimes!
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This is why the HTPC has a top level exclusion of -[filename (path)]=Google :)
In fact, the entire image library on the server has this exclusion, so once vetted, only the 'keepers' make it into the library proper. There's lot's of stuff that has no place in there, mostly things like small labels my eyes can't read, I take a photo and zoom into it, and tada...
I've tried all kinds of ways on the iPhone. The only way I've found to keep everything synced up is to log in to Google Photos from a web browser and delete in there. Then the deletions get propogated. I get a notification in Google Photos on the phone, in the "assistant" to advise that x number of photos have been deleted, and do I want to remove them from the device, and when I say yes, iOS then asks if I want to allow Google to do that. Removal from MC is however, almost instant.
hoyt:
--- Quote from: RoderickGI on January 29, 2018, 09:39:18 pm ---Google also only stores original quality photos up to you free or paid limit of storage. Go over that limit and Google will unilaterally reduce the quality of the photos, to save space. So Google Drive is a great way to quickly get photos from a phone to the web, to a PC you can manage, but it is probably best them to copy those photos to another location on the PC, if you wish to retain lots of photos long-term at original quality, and then delete them from Google Photos.
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This is one of the reasons I bought a Pixel. The unlimited original resolution backup size is something I've taken advantage of. I noticed with the Pixel 2 they changed this verbiage to be something about the lifetime of the device, but the original Pixel is much more vague. Good idea about backing them up outside of the Drive folder though.
--- Quote from: RoderickGI on January 29, 2018, 09:39:18 pm ---The other issue with this setup is that every photo you take with you phone will appear within minutes on your HTPC. Is that a good idea? Maybe. Maybe not sometimes!
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I was thinking of this today and how I'd "clean" the photos first. I don't want to derail the thread, but I'm certainly going to play with images more after reading this!
pschelbert:
Used never "image" feature on JRiver nor TV.
But all about music, sound-DSP, music-library.
Peter
RoderickGI:
I was going to buy a Pixel 2 but wasn't happy with the flex test as it has a weak point and breaks. Also no SD card support. The Pixel 2 XL is stronger, but still no SD card. Hence I bought the Sony XZ Premium.
Google put an actual expiry date on the original resolution storage for Pixel 2 of January 15, 2021. Not good enough for permanent storage of precious memories.
While this discussion is a little off topic, it is still about our photo workflow, and how MC fits into it. Basically, I think MC can be a great final repository for photos, but isn't the tool for collection, editing, and I'm not sure about tagging, but management and display it is certainly good. Particularly display for friends and family on a TV driven by a HTPC. I would love to see MC handle standard geographic and faces tags, so that these tags created before the photos get to MC are used without further effort.
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