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Why not a truly Windows 10 Skin on MC 24?
Awesome Donkey:
If you want the best looking skin family on Windows 10, the Modern Cards skins are what you likely want. On Windows 10 I use a modded Modern Cards: Light Edition skin (that I modded myself and provide a download to here) and it looks perfectly with Windows 10.
flac.rules:
--- Quote from: imugli on March 01, 2018, 06:40:52 pm ---Do you know you can create your own skins if you’re willing to jump in and get your hands dirty?
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Is if fully customizable though? Doesn't seem like it on the forums, the available skins are few, and pretty similar to the original. If thats the solution, maybe a new skinning engine is needed? Because for some reason, the availability of custom skins with a different look is low.
flac.rules:
--- Quote from: Hendrik on March 02, 2018, 03:01:00 am ---"Good looking" is quite subjective. Did you try the "Modern Cards" family of Skins that come with MC? Its a flat uniform look, which somewhat resembles the modern Windows look.
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Yeah, somewhat, but it is also quite a lot of agreement, MC is looking somewhat aged, some of it is just that it does more, the modern "clean look" with "no" functions certainly has it's downsides, but it is possible to say something about design without it just being "different people like different things, all design is equal".
RD James:
Would it be possible for Media Center to support Windows 10's Fluent Design features, similar to how Aero is supported on Windows 7?
That would mean transparency support in the skins, and improved transparency rendering for things like tooltips (which are barely legible at times in their current implementation).
I'd consider working on a skin if the Media Center team will commit to fixing scaling errors in the rendering engine.
Back when I had an Apple notebook I was about 2/3 of the way complete on a skin that had the appearance of being macOS native, but stopped once these rendering issues were no longer being fixed.
If things aren't being scaled correctly, there's no point in putting in that effort, or trying to hide it by making changes to the skin's appearance.
That being said, I'm not sure what a "Windows 10" app would look like. Microsoft's Groove app? I'm honestly not a huge fan of a lot of the Windows 10 aesthetic.
Awesome Donkey:
--- Quote from: RD James on March 02, 2018, 06:23:17 am ---Would it be possible for Media Center to support Windows 10's Fluent Design features, similar to how Aero is supported on Windows 7?
That would mean transparency support in the skins, and improved transparency rendering for things like tooltips (which are barely legible at times in their current implementation).
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Can Win32 apps even use Fluent Design features or can only UWP apps use it?
I admit, this would be pretty interesting to see. If you use a third-party "Windows Aero Glass" mod (e.g. Aero Glass For Windows 8+) you *can* re-enable the transparency/glass effects in the MC skins that use it (e.g. Noire Glass) in Windows 10. Otherwise those skins give off an error (OpenGL error if I recall correctly?) when trying to use them on Windows 10, macOS or Linux.
At the very least getting the transparency/glass effects working again on Windows 10 would go a long way. I'd even start experimenting with creating a semi-transparent fork of the Modern Cards: Light Edition skin I use now. At the very least I'd be able to at least "emulate" the Fluent Design look in the frame of the skin. :D
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