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NEW: Television tuners on clients are allowed to be used for recording
Yaobing:
This is something that I meant to do for a long time.
Some users have TV tuners on client computers instead of the server and can not move them to the server for various reasons, such as not having TV antenna/cable at the server location. For a long time we can only use the tuners on clients for live viewing, not for recording. The reason for the limitation is that any time a user schedules a recording, the recording rule is sync'ed to the server and thus the server would perform the actual recording.
Now MC will allow recording to happen on clients. Here are some details:
0. Before recording can happen on any client, one must first make some configuration changes.
A. The TV recording folder that a client uses must be shared with the server.
B. The server must understand the folder structure that the client uses. This means one must use mapped drive or UNC. For example, if TV recording folder on the client is set to "V:\TV Recordings\", then the same folder must be mapped on the server as "V:\TV Recordings\", so that any recordings written to this folder will be playable by the server.
1. If the server does not already have the channels of the type matching the tuners on the client, for example ATSC channels, and the server does not have tuners of that type, then you need to first scan for channels on the client. On a client, the television Setup tool is enabled initially. If you click it, you may be asked to confirm that you want to enable channel and EPG setup on the client. Click Yes and go ahead with the normal Setup procedure to set up channels. The Setup wizard will ask you to set up EPG too. You may choose an EPG method, such as mc2xml or Over-the-air, or choose "No Guide" (see item 2. below). Clicking Yes on the initial confirmation will enable the setting "Allow setup on clients". This setting is in TV Options > Advanced section. If you change you mind about this setting, you can go to Advanced section to change it.
2. It is recommended that you keep EPG setup on the server. There is one situation in which you have to run EPG updates on the client. This is the case if your over-the-air tuners are all on the client, and not on the server, AND you absolutely need to use over-the-air method of getting EPG data. If this is the case, choose Over-the-air EPG mode during Setup (see item 1. above). That been said, however, if you insist on doing all TV stuff on the client, there is nothing to prevent you from running EPG updates on the client, with mc2xml or with OTA.
3. To actually get recording to work on the client, there is another setting you must turn on. This setting is TV Options > Recording > Enable recording on client. This option must be turned on manually.
4. Now you can run TV recording wizard to set up recordings, including subscription recordings. In the last wizard step, you may choose on which computer you want the recording to take place.
5. If you set up a new rule on the server, the recording will happen on the server (the only choice is "server").
6. If you set up a new rule on a client, MC will test and make sure the conditions specified in item 0. above are met. If so, you will be given the choice of recording the show on "the server" or "this computer". Once you make the choice, all future recording related to this particular recording rule (in case of subscription recording) will be recorded on the same computer, until you reconfigure it.
7. If you configure an existing rule on the server, and the rule was previously set to record on a client (say "Computer A"), you will have the choice of keeping "Computer A", or changing it to "the server".
8. If you configure an existing rule on the server, and the rule was previously set to record on the server, then the only choice will be "the server". To change it to a client, you need to do the configuration on that client.
9. If you configure an existing rule on a client, and the rule previously was to record on the server or on this particular client ("Computer A"), then you will have the option to set it to "the server" or "this computer".
10. If you configure an existing rule on a client ("Computer A"), and the rule previously was to record on a different client ("Computer B"), then you will have the option to set it to "the server", or "this computer", or "Computer B".
Yaobing:
The purpose of this system is to allow you to use a tuner that is on a client and not accessible on the server. If you have networked tuners (such as HDHomeRun), you should not use this setup as it will incur extra network usage without providing any advantage.
imeric:
I have 3 PCS with tuner cards and they all record different shows for different people (Kids, Wife and me...)
The PC for the kitchen only has ATSC cards therefore need to access one of the other 2 (HTPC or living room) from time to time for Sports channels recorded off of 2 STBs with Colossus/HD PVR capture cards)
The only problems I have with my current setup is:...If I access one of those 2 PCs from the kitchen PC I lose the server ability on that PC for TV recordings AND Need to make sure I revert back to the main library to reactivate the server for TV recordings…
So this is a nice attempt to leverage card usage on all PCs but will not help me and sharing one recording location would be hard to manage...
Nice addition but not sure it will be useful for my needs.
And hopefully this won't screw things up with my current setup...WHat I trully need is the ability to access either one of my 2 PCs with tuner cards without losing the ability to record shows on that Kitchen PC...
Yaobing:
Now your kitchen PC will be able to record while it is a client to another PC. That is the point of this change. However if you can not make a shared drive for both the client and the server, then it will not work. Also if you keep switching from one server to another, it may be hard to manage.
imeric:
--- Quote from: Yaobing on February 26, 2019, 02:48:33 pm ---Now your kitchen PC will be able to record while it is a client to another PC. That is the point of this change. However if you can not make a shared drive for both the client and the server, then it will not work. Also if you keep switching from one server to another, it may be hard to manage.
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I want different contents on the different PCs/Drives as I have different subscriptions as per my first post. Could you make it so the kitchen PC has its own server settings for recordings (using local drives) but behaves as a client for TV watching simultaneously? (ie looking at the library content on the server only?)
This is really all I need. Then if someone forgets to bring back the Kitchen PC on its main library no recordings will be missed!
Not sure I understand why we need a Shared Drive for this new feature to work? This will be a major PITA as the 2 PCs would have to be on all the time or need a separate NAS...And I need all the space I can get for the different recordings for the different audience...
As a side note not sure it's related but I've had issues where MC would mix local recordings to server recordings when connected as a client on the kitchen PC but this doesn't seem to happen anymore (https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,106997.msg743334.html#msg743334)
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