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BartMan01

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Do recording rules look at shows not recorded by MC?
« on: May 30, 2020, 11:50:31 pm »

Having issues with TV episodes that I already have in my library being recorded. When determining if a shows needs to be recorded, do the recording rules look at files in your library even if MC did not originally record them?
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RoderickGI

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Re: Do recording rules look at shows not recorded by MC?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2020, 01:43:44 am »

No.

The wording of the Recording Rule gives a hint, "Do not record programs that have been recorded in the past". The rules don't say "Do not record programs that already exist in the Library".

The only way MC knows that a program has been recorded in the past is if it has a value in the [Recording Rule ID] field. Generally, the existence of a value in that field is how MC determines that a file is a TV recording. That field isn't editable. I think there was some discussion about making it editable some times ago, but apparently that would break too many things.

Maybe there is a case for an extra rule that does take into account what is already in the Library, as defined by [Series], [Season], and [Epsiode]. But that doesn't exist at the moment.


Of course, I could be wrong. I can't take advantage of that rule very often because I have poor EPG data, so I'm going by memory. But your observation confirms what I have said, I believe.
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BartMan01

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Re: Do recording rules look at shows not recorded by MC?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2020, 01:23:12 pm »

Thanks. This is a bit of an ongoing pain because I have a ton of old TV show stuff in my existing library that I use OTA recordings to fill the gaps in for. Ending up having to spend a lot of time deleting duplicate episodes.

Just FYI for future feature consideration - Plex does look at your library and has an option to only record a show if it is of higher quality that what you currently have in your library.
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RoderickGI

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Re: Do recording rules look at shows not recorded by MC?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2020, 04:27:57 pm »

Take a look at Swag of Tools and MCUtils to see if either can add a value to the [Recording Rule ID] field. I suspect they can. I'm just not sure what that would do to other TV functionality in MC.

As always, make a backup before trying such stuff.
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What specific version of MC you are running:MC27.0.27 @ Oct 27, 2020 and updating regularly Jim!                        MC Release Notes: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Release_Notes
What OS(s) and Version you are running:     Windows 10 Pro 64bit Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.572).
The JRMark score of the PC with an issue:    JRMark (version 26.0.52 64 bit): 3419
Important relevant info about your environment:     
  Using the HTPC as a MC Server & a Workstation as a MC Client plus some DLNA clients.
  Running JRiver for Android, JRemote2, Gizmo, & MO 4Media on a Sony Xperia XZ Premium Android 9.
  Playing video out to a Sony 65" TV connected via HDMI, playing digital audio out via motherboard sound card, PCIe TV tuner
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