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sygnus21:

--- Quote from: FenceFurniture on August 09, 2019, 12:49:30 am ---in dbPoweramp the default is 5, so that is probably what they think is the sweet spot, I suppose. I'll finish these rips soon and update the stats I just posted.
True, but I'm running out of space on my Solid State drive in the Laptop.

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In DBPoweramp the recommended compression level is 5. In JRiver Media Center its 6. I wouldn't get caught up in who thinks what compression level is best as these are different programs. Anyway I myself use no compression level in either program. That's me.

wer:

--- Quote from: Smilin_Jim on August 19, 2019, 01:13:02 pm ---There is one good reason not to go with the above suggestions.  Some devices, like my 2019 Acura RDX, need the compression level set to 0 in order to read the file correctly.

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Then your 2019 Acura RDX doesn't correctly support FLAC.

I tried to help a friend play files from a USB stick in his car last year; he was puzzled why he couldn't get it to work.  Turned out the car would recognize 128kbit MP3, and 320kbit MP3, but it wouldn't recognize 192kbit.

Some embedded devices just have broken support, like his car and yours.

That's not a reason to avoid FLAC compression, it just means that people with dysfunctional embedded devices need to convert their files as needed. 

Unlike some formats, FLAC doesn't need additional computing horsepower for higher levels of DEcompression.  Acura ought to fix that defect with a firmware update for their infotainment system.  Good luck.

sygnus21:

--- Quote from: wer on August 19, 2019, 03:47:27 pm ---Then your 2019 Acura RDX doesn't correctly support FLAC.

I tried to help a friend play files from a USB stick in his car last year; he was puzzled why he couldn't get it to work.  Turned out the car would recognize 128kbit MP3, and 320kbit MP3, but it wouldn't recognize 192kbit.

Some embedded devices just have broken support, like his car and yours.

That's not a reason to avoid FLAC compression, it just means that people with dysfunctional embedded devices need to convert their files as needed. 

Unlike some formats, FLAC doesn't need additional computing horsepower for higher levels of DEcompression.  Acura ought to fix that defect with a firmware update for their infotainment system.  Good luck.

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I'm not ready to assume it's an "Acura problem" especially in 2019. It sounds more like media file issue. I'm pretty sure if I went to an Acura dealer and loaded a CD with level 5 or 6 compression level flac files loaded onto it into one of their car's stereo's that CD would play. 

My two cents.

wer:
Try it.  It might very well work.  Because the CD files are processed differently than the USB files.  Car infotainment systems are often a hodgepodge of technologies glued together that have a variety of issues.

If you take a flac file to several different players and they all play it fine, but your car won't, what should you deduce from that?  Presumably you tried the files in other players to ensure the file is valid.

I'm not saying it's a problem unique to Acura.  Not at all.

Any device or player, that claims to support FLAC, but will only play level 0 files, does not support FLAC properly, by definition.

In another thread I related an issue where a device would play 128kbit and 320kbit MP3 files, but not 192kbit.  Nothing wrong with the files, that's just defective MP3 support, plain and simple.  Same sort of problem.

sygnus21:

--- Quote from: wer on August 19, 2019, 06:19:49 pm ---Try it.  It might very well work.  Because the CD files are processed differently than the USB files.  Car infotainment systems are often a hodgepodge of technologies glued together that have a variety of issues.

If you take a flac file to several different players and they all play it fine, but your car won't, what should you deduce from that?  Presumably you tried the files in other players to ensure the file is valid.

I'm not saying it's a problem unique to Acura.  Not at all.

Any device or player, that claims to support FLAC, but will only play level 0 files, does not support FLAC properly, by definition.

In another thread I related an issue where a device would play 128kbit and 320kbit MP3 files, but not 192kbit.  Nothing wrong with the files, that's just defective MP3 support, plain and simple.  Same sort of problem.

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Not trying to argue, and I'm going to move on, but I'm having a hard time following what you're putting down cause just about everything today supports flac so...  ?

Peace:)

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