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Don't unify different versions of the album (16 and 24 bits)
LETRA:
--- Quote from: blgentry on September 25, 2019, 02:08:04 pm ---I'm not clear on what you are doing with "expand albums" or why. All of my albums in my views show as I want them to without using expand albums.
What happens when you do not use expand albums?
Is that part of this 16 versus 24 bit grouping problem or is it separate?
Brian.
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I use "expand albums" because some of the albums have different publisher tags on one or the other tracks. For example, an ECM disc is labeled on several tracks such as ECM and on other tracks such as "Jan Garbarek Ltd".
I have been able to create rules to show only 16-bit ECM and 24-bit albums. But for albums not to be incomplete with only the 16-bit "ECM" tracks (missing those with "Jan Garbarek Ltd." publisher in the same album) I use that modifier.
"Expand albums" does not support parameters. For my suggestion that the parameter "bit depth" or "path" can be added when we create the rule.
LETRA:
--- Quote from: wer on September 25, 2019, 02:49:13 pm ---Letra,
Brian's solution works perfectly, and changing the Group By setting of the view, as he suggests, would be the most flexible and least "invasive" solution.
But if you want to modify the Album names, you can in fact do that all at once:
Select the tracks you want to change the album field for, and paste this into the Album field in the tag window:
=[Album] - [Bit Depth]
That will change all the album names according to that rule in one step. Try it first by pasting it into the comment field (or some other unused field) to see if you like the results. It would also be possible to only change the 24 or 16 bit files, by using an IfElse expression.
Regarding what you refer to as "expand albums" I guess you're talking about in Smartlists. Modifying your Album names may be the only way around some of the limitations there...
-Will
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I participate with the help of the Google translator and I don't know if I can explain the matter correctly. There are several solutions that work, but without the "expand albums" parameter (in the previous message I explained why that parameter is necessary).
"Expand albums" I do not use in smart list. I use it in library view. I have library views organized by publishers.
But the "expand albums" rule does not support parameters such as "path" or "bit depth."
wer:
I understand what you mean now, the picture helped.
The "expand to complete album" search functionality is the same functionality I was referring to regarding Smartlists.
To use that functionality the way you want, you would have to change the album names.
However, it is not necessary to use "expand to complete album" for the view you are creating, IF all your files have the "Editor" tag filled properly.
The purpose of the "expand to complete album" modifier functionality is that if your search matches only one (or some) of the tracks in an album naturally, the modifier also returns all the other tracks in that album. If you filled out the Editor/Publisher field properly for all the files, the "expand to complete album" would not be necessary.
Copy the Editor/Publisher tag to the other files in the album, remove the "expand to complete album" modifier, and you will be able to get the results you want using the method Brian provided.
blgentry:
Ah, I think I've got it now. Letra, you have a metadata problem. I believe you can fix that problem very easily.
As an example:
1. Go to your Publisher view showing Publisher = ECM
2. Now you see a list of albums and the albums have all the songs in them, even the songs with the wrong publisher.
3. You want them all to have Publisher = ECM right? So, highlight all albums (edit > select all).
4. Open the tagging Pane. (Edit > Tag) . You will see the Tagging Pane open on the left.
5. Go to the tagging pane and find Publisher (or maybe it's called Editor in your native language).
6. Click on the value to the right of this field which probably says "Varies". You will see a list. In this list will be ECM. Select ECM. Now click somewhere else.
After you do this, the Publisher (Editor) field for all of these albums and all of their songs will be ECM. You can do this for each of your Publishers and then your metadata will be correct.
I would try this on one album as an experiment so you can see how it works. Then do a few albums at once. If that works, then do all the rest for ECM. When that works, do all albums for each publisher.
You can probably get all of this done in a short time assuming you have only a few publishers.
Once your metadata is all correct you won't need expand albums anymore, and you can use MC more fully.
Brian.
LETRA:
Hello Brian & wer,
I've been testing all night yesterday with your solution. It is valid in 99% of cases and, for lack of a better idea, is the one I will choose for now. Still there are two problems. There are albums that have two publishers. In jazz it is very common that there is an original publisher and a reissue in a parent publisher. The second problem is that every time I add new albums in 24 bits I will have to repeat the process. And I have more than 22,000 albums and dozens of publisher library views. Therefore, I would ask you to consider the possibility of adding that pair of parameters to "expand complete albums" (path & bit deep).
Thank you very much for your help and we will continue to fight with JRiver because it is the program with the best sound and greatest capabilities.
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