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Where are my playlist stored?
DONUSA:
I have multiple PC running MC25. They all share a library I keep in the cloud and sync to each PC's local drive. This way any change I make to the library on one PC is also changed on the other PC. This works well, except for Playlists. If I create or modify a playlist, those changes are not picked up on the other PC. This leads me to believe that the playlist is not part of the library, but stored somewhere in the local instance of the MC app. 1) Where is the playlist kept and what is the file name? 2) Is it possible to put it somewhere else and direct the local copy of MC to the different location?
RoderickGI:
You are using a very non-standard implementation. That will impact the level of support you get. You will need to explain a lot more about what and how you sync, where to, and what tools you use. Plus why you have set up what you have.
Playlists are stored in the Library. You don't need to know which file it is in, because you can't just take one file from a Library and move it to another Library.
In fact, a Playlist doesn't exist at all in a file. Rather than having a Playlist which lists all files in it, MC records against each file which Playlists it belongs to. Sort of the reverse of what you would expect. At least that is my understanding. No-one has corrected me on that so far! ;D
Anyway, if you set up a Playlist in your source Library and it doesn't appear in the target Libraries, then your Library sync process isn't working. Simple as that.
BryanC:
--- Quote from: DONUSA on October 17, 2019, 10:26:05 pm ---I have multiple PC running MC25. They all share a library I keep in the cloud and sync to each PC's local drive. This way any change I make to the library on one PC is also changed on the other PC. This works well, except for Playlists. If I create or modify a playlist, those changes are not picked up on the other PC. This leads me to believe that the playlist is not part of the library, but stored somewhere in the local instance of the MC app. 1) Where is the playlist kept and what is the file name? 2) Is it possible to put it somewhere else and direct the local copy of MC to the different location?
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I've run into this same issue as well. I've tried to get something working with the MCC/MCWS "Export all playlists" (20004) command, but it is not fully automated because MC will prompt for the output format. It would be nice to be able to specify the output format in the core command so that the playlist export can happen automatically. Then I could at least sync the exported playlist location to my other devices, although I haven't determined yet if Auto-Import can track changes in imported playlist files.
~OHM~:
I have had success by using a backup to get the playlists to line up....I have a backup computer that runs MC (it is literally one of several backups of my music files) obviously the drives all match for this to work. It can also be the "player" if need be.
DONUSA:
--- Quote from: RoderickGI on October 17, 2019, 11:45:19 pm ---You are using a very non-standard implementation. That will impact the level of support you get. You will need to explain a lot more about what and how you sync, where to, and what tools you use. Plus why you have set up what you have.
Playlists are stored in the Library. You don't need to know which file it is in, because you can't just take one file from a Library and move it to another Library.
In fact, a Playlist doesn't exist at all in a file. Rather than having a Playlist that lists all files in it, MC records against each file which Playlists it belongs to. Sort of the reverse of what you would expect. At least that is my understanding. No-one has corrected me on that so far! ;D
Anyway, if you set up a Playlist in your source Library and it doesn't appear in the target Libraries, then your Library sync process isn't working. Simple as that.
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OK, this is helpful. I assumed there was a file with a pointer to the songs in my playlist. If the songs are "tagged" with a list name and MC plays songs with that tag, the songs library may indeed be syncing. It is just that the playlist name in the left navigation tree is not syncing.
Say I create a playlist on one machine and add some songs to it. The songs get tagged with the list name and perhaps that is syncing. But, when I go to the other PC there is no list by that name in the navigation tree. So, what I should be asking is, where is the playlist name kept?
(Actually, the way MC does this makes perfect sense. Rather than create a file full of songs and play them, MC just filters the songs with the tag of the playlist name just like it would do by artist name, and it plays what is on the list. So the playlist is actually just a logic filter that runs when I open the list by clicking on the list name in the navigation tree. Have I got that right? If so, I just need to get that little routine to be imported to the other PC as others have suggested).
To answer the question about how my system is set up, I have an HTPC that only really only plays content in my home theater. In my home office, I have my super-duper work-horse PC where I do my workflow. Both PC's used to share a Synology NAS until that broke after just two years. So I bought a new Synology NAS and that broke after two years also. That's when I switched to a cloud server. I use Dropbox, but essentially it is the same. Dropbox keeps the local copies of the library in sync with the one on the cloud. I used a sync tool to do this when I had a NAS. MC would never be running on both PCs at the same time. If I make a lot of changes to the library, I let Dropbox sync the local library copy on the HTPC before I launch MC so all the updates are reflected. I checked that this would work on this forum before switching to the cloud. There are at least a few others who do this. I've had this set up for some time now, but I only just decided to start using playlists and encountered this problem. If there is a better way to keep multiple instances in sync, please tell me. These days everyone expects that with many applications, like Apple Music. The way I do it is relatively cumbersome by comparison. If I create a playlist on my iPhone I immediately see it on my Mac and v-a-v.
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