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[RoderickGI]

WOL is not implemented yet: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123223.msg853495.html#msg853495

[skarsol]

Well then, I guess that explains why it doesn't seem to work.

[DJLegba]

I've been using JRemote2 for a while now. Overall still very pleased with it, and I'm content to wait for most of the missing features except for the inability to move around quickly in a list. Please add JRemote-style scrolling back as soon as possible. Thanks.

[JohanJooste]

Hi Gents - tx for the good work on JRemote2. Please advise how to delete excess/obsolete servers in the My Servers list.

Thank you
JJ

[Logic800]

As above, I have this (can't) delete server issue as well.

[Hendrik]

I'll add deleting servers in an upcoming update. It sort-of slipped through the cracks.
Will try to tackle most of the most common requests soon, so that we can get into a decent "1.0" state, before we plan fancy new features.

[Logic800]

Cheers!

[Gatherum]

The only two things for which I immediately care:

1. Ratings
2. Metadata editing

Otherwise, very good show! I'm excited that this is finally happening! n.n

[Zhillsguy]

I prefer to use the device volume controls. Maybe as a selectable option?

Great work so far!

[MikeO]

I am using JRemote 2 on a Samsung Tab A 6 in, playing to This Device, then Bluetooth to a sound bar

On 3 occasions it just stopped, maybe 10 minutes in.  Wouldn’t respond . Then required a restart

Switched to old JRemote, ran with no issues

[MartinC]

The recently introduced MC26 enables lyrics to be added to the metadata.  I added lyrics to a few albums and copied them to my IdPi’s SSD.  They could be read on EOS, but with a problem.  I installed JRemote2 to see if it had the same problem, and it does.

You can see the lyrics as part of the metadata for a track, but when the next track starts the metadata isn’t refreshed so you still see the previous track’s lyrics.  I hope this can be sorted; it is particularly important for classical music fans listening to opera and wanting to see the lyrics.  I think lyrics should be seen full screen, perhaps with track number/name as a header, apart from the other metadata.  You normally view metadata just to check a detail, but lyrics are different.

Other things (some may be out of date already) –

When playing an album, if I pick the 3 dots logo to the right of a track there are various options.  Could ‘Remove from Playing Now’, or something similar be added, or better still to remove the track before starting to play?  Removing the track from the library, using ratings or other solutions are just work-arounds.  I find it really frustrating that so much work has gone into improving playlists but MC (and JRemote2) lack this simple(?) feature.
Ratings are a love/ hate issue mentioned before.  Please let us remove them from the display.  Five blank stars are still ratings that many of us don’t want to see.  EOS has a selectable ‘Show Ratings on File lists’, so it can be done.
When the Theme is set as Dark the scroll button on the right hand side can’t be seen.

When playing a track you show Sample Rate, Bitrate, (192 kHz, 9216 Kbps).  Shouldn’t this be Sample Rate, Bit Depth, (192 KHz, 24 Bits)?  Or simply 192/24: anyone using JRemote2 will know what the numbers refer to.  OK, tracks converted to MP3 to play on your phone need Bitrate.

I much prefer EOS’s way of showing elapsed time.  For a 5:00 min track you might see 02:20/5:00, whereas JRemote2 will show 02:20         (track no.)           -02:40.  Just my preference.

Album icons show one line beneath for the album title.  Very restrictive for classical music where album names are usually much longer.  Compare that to the large spacing in the tracks view.

I really want to like JRemote2, but I’m finding it hard.  I generally use EOS (or JRemote2) just to navigate to an album and then play it.  Usable lyrics would be very helpful, and if you can show them properly I would use JRemote2 when I wanted lyrics, but for normal day to day use I find EOS much more ‘friendly’ (I wish it was still available & maintained).

I’m sorry to sound so negative.  I do appreciate your effort and the enthusiasm of the beta testers.

[RoderickGI]

When playing an album, if I pick the 3 dots logo to the right of a track there are various options.  Could ‘Remove from Playing Now’, or something similar be added

Display the Playing Now list, press EDIT in the bottom right corner, swipe away any tracks you don't want in Playing Now.

BTW the three dots to the right of each track only show in the Album view, not the Playing Now view, which has a three dot menu at the top right for functions that affect the whole playlist. So I'm not sure where you are expecting to remove tracks from the Playing Now list.



The rest are mostly personal preference issues

It might be nice to show Bit Depth along with Sample Rate, just because we think that way. But Bitrate is an important measure of quality as well. As you note, for MP3's, usually more important. Bit Depth is quickly visible in Metadata.

I prefer the current display showing remaining time for a track, rather than forcing me to calculate that by looking at time played and duration. Just my preference.

There was much debate about having scrolling fields in JRemote2, which would then display long names with a pause at the start. Some like it. Some hate it. At present only the Album name in the Album view scrolls so you can view the whole Album name. Also in the Album view you can show multiple lines for each track. It is only in Playing Now that you only get one line, with a "..." showing there is more. I would think it is in the Album view that you would want to see the full names, to decide if you want to add tracks to Playing Now. Once added to Playing Now, generally, for me, the decision is made. Unless I am loading a Playlist, in which case I guess I might want to review tracks and remove some from a Playlist, or more likely Playing Now.

Hints:
Turn your phone sideways, into landscape mode. You will see much longer names without truncation.
Play with the toggle in the top right corner of the album view, to change the display format and show more or less information for each track.

[Hendrik]

It might be nice to show Bit Depth along with Sample Rate, just because we think that way. But Bitrate is an important measure of quality as well. As you note, for MP3's, usually more important. Bit Depth is quickly visible in Metadata.

It should be showing bitdepth for FLAC in native playback mode, instead of the bitrate - since for a lossless format, bitrate is irrelevant. When natively playing a lossy format like MP3 or M4A AAC, then those don't have a relevant bitdepth, but bitrate matters.
Generally, there is rarely a case where both matter, since lossless bit-exact formats, where the bitdepth matters, the bitrate does not, and all major lossy audio formats make the bitdepth irrelevant as the first step to compress the audio, but here the bitrate is the quality indicator.

When transcoding, it does not show that information, since its no longer quite relevant.

[MartinC]

Roderick
Thanks for your reply, and explaining how to remove a track from Playing Now. That’s just what I wanted.
You mentioned ‘scrolling fields’.  When I mentioned the ‘scroll button’ I was referring to scrolling down a long list of albums.  There is a scroll bar on the right hand side but it’s hard to see when Theme is set as Dark.  OK if you start at the top or bottom, but not if you’re half way down.  If you set Theme as Light it’s much easier to see.  It just needs at bit of contrast.
Regarding the single line for album names, the format toggle at top right is very helpful.  Thanks.
We must agree to disagree about how to show elapsed time.

Thanks for your comment Hendrik
All of my music is stored as AIFF, so from what you say it looks like I should be seeing Sample Rate, Bit Depth as I suggested (using JRemote2 to control my IdPi playing into my DAC).

Any comment on the display of lyrics?  It looks as though JRiver decided make them available in MC26 without thinking about what to do with them.

[rwpritchett]

I'm chiming in to support the request for a better library scroll mechanism. I don't know if the current JRemote2 tiny scroll bar is not responding to finger presses or if it's due to the Galaxy S10 beveled screen edge, but I'm not able to fast scroll through my library. Scrolling without using a scroll bar in a library with ~2k artists is not fun. Bonus points if you can add the scroll position alpha letter overlay while scrolling like the original JRemote.

[RoderickGI]

You mentioned ‘scrolling fields’.

I was refering to this:

Very restrictive for classical music where album names are usually much longer.

Scrolling field contents is one way to show longer names in full.

[MartinC]

Thanks for the clarification Roderick.  I think seeing a screen full of long classical album names all scrolling would be a bit excessive, and I can see all I need now using the format toggle, with a bit extra in landscape.
Martin

[RayG]

My 2c.

Good response time.
Changing thumbnail size does nothing. Old folks would also like a larger text option.
The grabbable scroll bar is effectively invisible in dark mode.
I'd like to use the hardware volume buttons, too, but the volume slider seems better than in JRemote1.
Still a bit slow picking up album artwork (internal). Sometimes shows in Artist list but not Recent Albums.
Can we rearrange the metadata list so the items we're most interested in are at the top? Not essential.

Thanks

[designmule]

I'm chiming in to support the request for a better library scroll mechanism. I don't know if the current JRemote2 tiny scroll bar is not responding to finger presses or if it's due to the Galaxy S10 beveled screen edge, but I'm not able to fast scroll through my library. Scrolling without using a scroll bar in a library with ~2k artists is not fun. Bonus points if you can add the scroll position alpha letter overlay while scrolling like the original JRemote.

+1 on both points

[HTPC4ME]

+1

[Awesome Donkey]

Pretty sure Hendrik is well aware of the scrolling 'issues' in JRemote2 compared to the original JRemote.

[fredhammersmith]

Love the new beta.
Looking forward for the "screen stay on" feature though. Does not work now, and my phone is just stopping playing music when it goes into screen lock mode.

[Awesome Donkey]

It only works for video files right now.

[designmule]

Pretty sure Hendrik is well aware of the scrolling 'issues' in JRemote2 compared to the original JRemote.

Cool. One feature I really like about JRemote for iOS is that on the right side, letters are displayed so you can kind of target where you want to scroll to. I'd love to see that in JRemote for Android.

[drmimosa]

Hendrik,

JRemote2 has been working flawlessly for me for a few weeks. Thank you.

When you are ready for requests... Any chance for Cloudplay and Radio JRiver playback?

[Ekpen]

Hendrik,

JRemote2 has been working flawlessly for me for a few weeks. Thank you.

When you are ready for requests... Any chance for Cloudplay and Radio JRiver playback?

Greetings:
It used to, but not anymore.
For the past 48 hours.. Zone detection is unstable.
It does not detect and if it does detect occasionally, nothing plays.
The counter also screwed up.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled twice, with no luck.
Thanks.
George Omoregie.

[RayG]

It should be showing bitdepth for FLAC in native playback mode, instead of the bitrate - since for a lossless format, bitrate is irrelevant. When natively playing a lossy format like MP3 or M4A AAC, then those don't have a relevant bitdepth, but bitrate matters.

It shows bitdepth for FLAC, but not for M4A ALAC. I have a lot of ALAC from years of iTunes.

[phillil]

Generally I have the "1+" option selected so clicking on a track will add the track to the end of the current playlist. This works perfectly in JRemote2 android.

However if want to add an entire album, on JRemote for iPhone, I can hold down on an album and then a menu pops up. If I select "add to playlist" or "play next" then the entire album is added/inserted into the playlist.

However on Android when I try this, only the first track on the album is added/inserted

I assume this is a bug??

[nsxelent]

Thank you Hendrik!!  I use JRemote almost daily on my Note 10. 

I just downloaded the new version and it seems to run a little faster.  Great work!!  My only request is the ability to play ALAC files locally on the device without trascoding to MP3.  I connect my phone to a Chord Mojo Headphone DAC/Amp and listen to my library remotely when I travel (this is my primary use for JRemote).  I have thousands of songs stored using ALAC and really don't want to convert them to FLAC.

Looking forward to the other things you have planned for the app!!

[Gatherum]

RE: Volume Levelling

I know this would be a shiny new feature and that those are rather far off, but if we got volume levelling, could we eventually get headphones crossfeed, similar to how it appears in MC's DSP studio?

It literally makes everything sound silly amazing through headphones and I would love that in JRemote.

Asking if it'd even be possible, for now.

[Hendrik]

Theoretically I can implement any sort of DSP, but I would need to entirely re-implement it, or spent a lot of time writing an adapter to the MC DSP. Re-implementing the playback side of volume leveling is trivial, since its just a volume adjustment. Further DSP, we'll have to see. No promises. Got a lot of non-JRemote work piling up as well.

Tomorrow the Christmas break ends, and I'll repond to more questions and requests, and I plan to release a new version of JRemote2 this week if I get everything done thats currently mid-flight.

[dcpete]

Shield support would be great!  I don't see JRemote2 in the Google Playstore for the Shield.  I have it running on my old Samsung Tablet and it looks really good.

Also, Jremote2 for Amazon Fire products would be nice too, especially their Android based tablets.

Thanks, Chris

[brucem2099]

I have been using Gizmo on my Android phone for years - I use it in my car on longer journeys.

Recently bought JRemote2 and - I don't know how you did it but it's great - I haven't had the same drop-out problems that were so frustrating with Gizmo.

The thing I miss most is shuffle/random play.  Ideally I would like to be able to choose a genre / artist / album then shuffle/random.

Mostly I go to favorite podcast "artist" and choose shuffle/random to see what interesting topic comes up! 

I wouldn't use a remote much if it doesn't have random/shuffle play.

Maybe the function is there already but I just can't find it. 

Bruce

[JimH]

I think it is there.  Try press and hold.

[brucem2099]

Thanks!!
Bruce

[RoderickGI]

Shuffle is also there on the first Playing Now screen, which shows the Cover Art of the playing item, rather than the list of all items in Playing Now.

It is to the left of the item name. Crossed arrows.

So if you added a whole Genre or Artist to Playing Now, you could shuffle in Playing Now at any time. Or edit the list to swipe stuff away, or drag and drop up and down the sequence with the three line icon on the right or each item.

[slerch666]

I purchased the JRemote 2 and installed it. Killed the old JRemote.

Signed up for the Beta.

Just found how to use Play Doctor and I am really liking the more responsive feel to the app.

[mcsw]

1. Is JRemote2 available free to try before purchase (Like JRiver)?

2. If I want to purchase it, can I get it direct from you and pay in USD as I have with JRiver? (The price in the UK Play Store is 4.50 Pound Sterling. This converts to 5.9 USD. A totally unreasonable 20% extra profit for Google Play.)

3. Does anyone have experience of running JRemote2 on an Amazon Tablet (modified to take Android software)?

Thank you for any advice you can give this novice here.

[Awesome Donkey]

1. Nope, I'm afraid that's a limitation of the Google Play Store. But I think you can get a refund from Google within 2 hours of purchase, if I recall correctly.

The others somebody else will have to answer.

[Hendrik]

Our Android applications are only available through the Play Store directly. Note that some countries include taxes in those prices, which explains certain differences - its not something Google just adds for their own profit.

[MysticDude]

I just purchased and installed JRemote2 on my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (Android 6) and it cannot connect to the Media Center 26 server (running on Windows 10). Credentials are correct and I tested on other devices running the full JRiver Media Center as a node/client. On the JRemote app on Android, whether I use the key or IP, once I put in the username/password I just get an endless spinning "Connecting" and have to manually kill the app to try again.

I know its in beta, but any ideas?

[Awesome Donkey]

Try enabling read-only authentication in MC's Options > Media Network, does it work then (set it to Everyone, then try connecting without a username/password)? That's strange though, I haven't encountered that at all.

[MysticDude]

Thanks kindly for responding. I enable passwordless readonly access and that worked fine and I was able to connect with JRemote2 without credentials. I dont do many things off the server which would require write access, so this should be good enough. Sure like the look of this app and being able to see the bit depth and sample rate of each track.

Thanks again

[Awesome Donkey]

Also, you can try switching read-only authentication from Everyone to Username and password, and using readonly for both the read-only username and password and see if it works there too.

If so, maybe it's something about the password (like some special character or something) being used that doesn't work in JRemote2?

[Rien]

Good day to you all

Is it is JRemote2 possible to read also the PDF or epub that comes with a audiodownload? It would be nice to read the booklet in the remote

With regards, RIen

[Hendrik]

I've published a new version of JRemote2 just now, it should be arriving on your devices soon.

The biggest feature in this version is Google Cast / ChromeCast support. It took a few weeks to build, so hopefully it'll also work quite reliably this time around.

There are some caveats when using Casting. Primarily, if you are using a secure connection between JRemote and MC, Cast will only work if the Certificate used in MC is fully trusted. In JRemote itself, I can overwrite the trust by either asking the user to manually trust it, or through our Access Key server, however with ChromeCast, I have no control to do any of that - so for ChromeCast to be able to access your server to load the media, it has to either be an insecure connection, or a fully trusted certificate.

The reason for this is that Casting does not actually cast the media, it only tells the Cast device where to find it - so the ChromeCast streams it straight from the MC server, and not through the device. As such, the connection between ChromeCast and MC has to be possible, which an untrusted certificate would not allow.

Some other limitations (for now):
- Shuffle / Repeat does not work when Casting yet
- No Native Playback when casting (yet), have to properly define the formats the Cast device can play

Next, I'll be looking into common requests and/or issues, and work through the most important ones there.

All changes listed below:

JRemote 2.0.8 (01/10/2020)

1. NEW: Native OggVorbis playback support.
2. NEW: Google Cast support.
3. Changed: Hardware Volume keys can be used to control volume when remote controlling a Media Center instance.
4. NEW: Improved Fast Scrolling in Library and Track views, with Alphabet popup in Library views.
5. Fixed: "Screen Always On" now works as expected.
6. Fixed: JRemote could resume on the Playing Now screen when returning from Standby instead of the last location.
7. Fixed: Video duration is properly shown on Playing Now for local playback.

[JimH]

I'm getting Error Connecting to Server when I first start.

[Hendrik]

There were no changes in regards to connecting to the server in this version. Make sure your server is actually on, and you're on WiFi if required.

[JimH]

Yes and yes. Rebooted too.

Permissions on the app show as none allowed and none denied. Can't change either.
Insecure connection.

[JimH]

Panel works on the same phone.  Bingo finds all the servers.