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JRiver x64 + madVR: Wrong Video Levels [Solved]
Hendrik:
Well if you like your desktop, the MC interface, and any website you open to look bad with crushed blacks and wrong colors, then thats a "good" recommendation. To each their own I guess.
I have never heard of such an issue, and you should probably ask madshi then.
tij:
Out of curiosity which TV you have?
And which rendering method you use - full screen windowed or exclusive full screen?
If6was9:
Mine is an old Sharp LCD TV, without HDMI control (Extended or Limited)
The problem occurs both in FSE mode and in Windowed mode, but in a different way:
in FSE, during playback, pressing pause/play several times, it locks the 16-235, then goes back to 0-255 until the next pause.
In Windowed mode, it does not lock in any way the 16-235, it remains fixed at 0-255, even by pressing pause/play
As repeated, I have always used these settings for years (madVR 16-235 GPU 0-255).
The problem arose now,
this is a bug between JRiver x64 and the latest madVR builds,
because with JRiver x32 there are no problems
But could someone with Win10 x64 and JRiver x64 give it a try?
Thanks
P.s.
I remember that by setting madVR in 16-235 and GPU in 0-255, the Limited range is sent to the display, as the GPU is bypassed,
And it is the best option for panels that do not support Full range, or for those who prefer the Limited range and use the PC only for Video material
tij:
Just to be sure ... you experiencing crushed blacks (cannot see details in dark area) or elevated blacks (blacks are grayish)?
--- Quote from: If6was9 on February 12, 2020, 04:47:00 am ---I remember that by setting madVR in 16-235 and GPU in 0-255, the Limited range is sent to the display, as the GPU is bypassed,
And it is the best option for panels that do not support Full range, or for those who prefer the Limited range and use the PC only for Video material
--- End quote ---
If you have TV set at full range ... and on your PC GPU on 0-255 and MadVR 16-235 - you will have elevated blacks
If6was9:
The problem is crushed blacks (I don't see details in dark area)
My TV has no controls to set Full or Limited range.
If I set madVR and GPU in Full range I have crushed blacks, because I send the Full range to the display
My TV doesn't support Full range
If I set madVR in 16-235 and GPU in 0-255 I have the correct levels 16-235 on the display (the GPU is bypassed),
but now there is this bug with JRiver x64, which sends the 0-255 Full range, always forces the madVR 16-235 to 0-255
P.s.
And in any case,
even with my VPJ (Epson LS-10500), which supports Full range, I always prefer to send the Limited range 16-235 (the movies are coded on video level), for me, the Full range RGB, has an unnatural boost on video material.
And in fact it is necessary to force the panel controls to bring Brightness and Contrast to the correct levels.
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