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cowboydude99:
Hi all,
I was hoping to get some help with SVP on my JRiver 25 install.

I'm using a projector on a 100" screen.  I sit only around 9' away, so when watching 24p movies, there is noticeable stop/go judder(?).

It is hard to watch movies when there are pans...

I know a lot of people don't see it, or mind it, but for me it really kills the whole experience.

I just had some questions, nothing major...

If anyone is using, or has used SVP:

a. Does JRiver with MADVR and SVP work together?

b. Are there any issues with HDR?

JimH:
Try both Red October Standard and HQ.  Do they both have this problem?

For testing purposes, make no changes to madVR.

cowboydude99:
Hi and thank you for responding.

With the RO Standard, it is a bit better.  Still a bit distracting.

I'm only watching 1080p with a system (newly rebuilt) running Win 10, i7 8700, 16GB Ram, GTX 1080.

I recently switched to a PJ, so there is no motion processing, which I think I'm very used to.

So I'm experimenting.  90% of what I watch is 4k, so I'm not entirely sure that I need to keep using MadVR.

MadVR - with my normal settings = 16ms.
MadVR - with lower settings for testing = 5ms.

Those render times seem pretty low.

cowboydude99:
Hi,
I just wanted to say that SVP seems to be working nicely.

I spent about 3 hours tweaking it though for different content (4K, 4K/60, 1080p).

This is exactly what I was looking for.  You can set specific SVP profiles based on the content frame rate, width, height, etc...

There are some noticeable artifacts.  Reminds me of my old Sony XBR9 TV.
Smooth, but some artifacts...

Overall, very happy using MADVR + SVP.

For anyone else that comes across this.
It takes a bit of time for playback to start.  Audio can go out of sync at first, but then it clicks in after 2-3 seconds.

I'm not sure if there is an option to hold off on playback until SVP kicks in...

RoderickGI:
You should have provided a link to the "Smooth Video Project" site in the first post. It would have helped me, and others I'm sure, understand what you were talking about.

Those instructions are six years old! https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:JRiver_Media_Center  I guess they still apply, but madVR has changed a lot since then. Before trying SVP, did you just try using the MC and madVR functions to upmix to 60 fps and check how that looked? Because MC +madVR can convert any video to 60 fps (and even higher if the hardware and drivers support it) and performs this in real-time.  I used to do that, and it was fine on my HTPC (see signature). But I do sit a little bit further back than you at around 3.5 metres, and my screen is only 65", and my TV is 4K, although that can make panning worse.

On my 30" 2560x1600 Workstation monitor I still upmix to 60 fps from all sources, including 24 and 25 fps. Works fine. No panning issues.

I'm just wondering if you did the comparison between MC+madVR properly configured and SVP. If so, is that difference noticeable?


PS: I don't think MC+madVR does interpolation, as SVP does, so there should be a difference. It is just a question of whether it is worth the extra layer and processing.

PPS: Recent thread on the topic: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,123165.0.html
        Also: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,121502.msg840165.html#msg840165

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