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Roma:
There are improvements in SQ sound on JRiver 27?

I use the JRiver only for listening to music, and after upgraring to version 27 I did not hear any changes in the sound, also i didn't find any new features for audio...

I'm a little disappointed ...

Best regards,
Roma.

pluto:

--- Quote from: Roma on September 26, 2020, 03:12:17 am ---…after upgrading to version 27 I did not hear any changes in the sound…
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What, in all honesty, were you hoping for? How do you get more perfect than perfect?

Awesome Donkey:
Exactly, JRiver Media Center already outputs bit-perfect audio, so how could it realistically go beyond that? It can't.

Instead, improvements to audio would have to be in things like DSP, which in JRiver Media Center 27 includes the newly added VST3 support.

Roma:

--- Quote from: pluto on September 26, 2020, 05:55:12 am ---What, in all honesty, were you hoping for? How do you get more perfect than perfect?

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This is a strange answer, it turns out that I pay money for this, I don't get anything, and is this normal in your opinion?



--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on September 26, 2020, 06:27:02 am ---Exactly, JRiver Media Center already outputs bit-perfect audio, so how could it realistically go beyond that? It can't.

Instead, improvements to audio would have to be in things like DSP, which in JRiver Media Center 27 includes the newly added VST3 support.

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VST3 support this will probably be useful for 1% of users, I asked to add Group delay correction or Dirac support, many want to have support for Tidal, Qobuz....

If there is no way to improve sound quality, then you need to add capabilities with the integration of room acoustics, for example...

Best regards,
Roma.

wer:

--- Quote from: Roma on September 26, 2020, 01:25:04 pm ---This is a strange answer, it turns out that I pay money for this, I don't get anything, and is this normal in your opinion?

If there is no way to improve sound quality, then you need to add capabilities with the integration of room acoustics, for example...

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First of all, the people you are talking to in this thread, myself included, are users just like you. They don't work for JRiver and it's not their job to improve the software.  We all paid money for it, just like you.

It's perfectly reasonable for you to expect improvements in the software to induce you to upgrade. MC27 actually hasn't yet added anything I really consider important either.

But you asked specifically about sound quality (or "SQ Sound" whatever that is).  And the answers you received were quite correct.  The sound quality from MC is already bit-perfect.  It's as good as it can be, and as good or better than any other software.  So what improvement on perfect is there?  Anyone who thinks "perfect" can be improved upon is confused.

The way to increase the sound quality you experience, once you are using MC as your source, is to improve your reproduction equipment (like speakers or headphones) or listening environment.

There are other types of sound related improvements, related to processing, one might request, like I want a different filtering algorithm, or I want an enhanced spatial processing algorithm, or I want a 50-band graphic equalizer. But these are sound manipulation (DSP), not playback quality. The VST3 effort is in this category.

But there are several other threads talking about the other feature-related improvements being made in MC27, and those that are planned.  You might want to check out those threads, read about the new features that have been introduced, and ask questions about those.  There are threads specifically about Tidal and Qobuz, did you know that? You can also make feature requests on the forum and JRiver staff will see them and might implement them. But if you request an improvement in sound quality, expect to be asked "How, exactly?"

It's naturally up to you to decide whether to upgrade or not. Your fellow users have no interest in persuading you one way or another, so you shouldn't be surprised if they fail to make what you consider persuasive arguments.

Good luck, and happy listening.

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