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AGAWA:
we are going in circles.
This is not about DSD, DACs etc.
People heard about some workaround to clicks , appending zeroes or similar sort of actions when converting ISO to DSF.

I've come across SACD ISO that has clicks and another with no clicks at all.
And I'm curious to know and possibly JRiver to find a real cure. JRiver could be the only people who took this seriously and provided solution within MC.

As I said before, I do not see why HW players produce no clicks and SW players do, but only on some SACDs.

Click is there, in the contents of the recording (ISO in this case) and SACD players take care of this.
Why then SW couldn't do the same?

And ISO is not something unusual (that would require earlier conversion and extraction of the file),  it can be processed on the fly without the need to extract beforehand. And this is how it was designed to be.

I take your advise seriously, but  please try to follow my thinking and maybe JRiver will be the first to cope with the problem.
Just small tweaks in software.

AGAWA:
And now, let's be serious.
I only hope that the whole discussion will result in product improvement, as it was my only goal in opening this topic.
Please stop giving me lessons as I know exactly what I'm doing.

And now to business:

How I see potential solution;

1. Monitor the file, while it  is being pulled from  ISO, check for possible differences to the norm in both intro and end of the file. If there are discrepencies,  adjust accordingly; this should remove any causes of clicks.
I do not know if clicks are just before the track begins or right at the end of the track.

2. Mute before and at the end; monitoring of the file (point 1 above) should allow to exactly time the mute space.

Just my ideas.

Perhaps this is a problem of initial SACD disks, ISO that  does not give clicks was issued several years after Bach.

AGAWA:

--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on April 05, 2021, 01:51:26 pm ---Multichannel DSD DACs are a different beast altogether. You might want to visit this topic for more info on multichannel DACs: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,126507.0.html

As for the glitches/pops/clicks issue, I still think it's caused by the DSD to PCM conversion and quite possibly the DAC, as it's a known quirk that happens sometimes.

--- End quote ---

Awesome Donkey,
It also happens inside PC and MAC, if you read carefully. Not just external DAC.

Known quirk - it looks like this popular knowledge is sufficient to explain everything?

I'm always digging deeper, not taking for granted popular explanations.
My only goal is to work together to improve the product.

If you assume befoerhand that you know what the problem is it will lead nowhere.

So the question now is : will JRiver look into this or should I forget and not bother anymore?
Will appreciate your answer.
cheers,

Awesome Donkey:

--- Quote from: AGAWA on April 06, 2021, 03:38:20 am ---Awesome Donkey,
It also happens inside PC and MAC, if you read carefully. Not just external DAC.
--- End quote ---

Like I said before, the operating system doesn't matter, it'll happen on all of them whether it be Windows, macOS, Linux, etc.

AGAWA:
so it's time to act and something about it. In MC.

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