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POLL: What's Your Vaccination Status?
dtc:
--- Quote from: michael123 on July 24, 2021, 11:35:24 am ---Effectivity is around 40%, this is what Dept of Health released recently
You can see what happens in Israel with over 70% vaccination. No massive deaths, but people get sick.
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The 40% number is for contracting the disease. The 90% numbers are for getting very sick and being hospitalized.
newsposter:
I'm prepping for a LOT of travel to the 'worst' of the third world in 2022, so here is my program......
09 Apr 2021 COVID 1 of 2
09 May 2021 COVID 2 of 2
10 May 2021 Shingles 1 of 2
24 May 2021 Tdap & Pneumococcal
14 June 2021 TwinRix (Hep A+B) 1 of 3
28 June 2021 MMR 1 of 2
12 July 2021 TwinRix (Hep A+B) 2 of 3
07 Sep 2021 Shingles 2 of 2
01 Nov 2021 COVID 3 (Moderna) if available
15 Nov 2021 Seasonal Flu
15 Nov 2021 MMR 2 of 2
13 Dec 2021 TwinRix (Hep A+B) 3 of 3
And in Jan 2022, the tropical big-6 shots start....
Begin Jan 2022 Meningitis
Begin Jan 2022 Polio
Begin Jan 2022 Yellow Fever
Begin Jan 2022 Cholera
Begin Jan 2022 Typhoid
Begin Jan 2022 Typhus
michael123:
--- Quote from: dtc on July 24, 2021, 11:42:40 am ---The 40% number is for contracting the disease. The 90% numbers are for getting very sick and being hospitalized.
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In Israel, anti-vaccination movement is weak, people are smart to enough to get vaccinated, now around half of teens over 12 yrs old is vaccinated.
On a larger scale - the rate of delta spread is slowed, but it is still there, and rising (!!), R is around 1.2.
And people die. Yes, vaccinated.
Waiting for the improved vaccine.. What can I say
We were on holiday in Greece, everyone with masks, did not eat inside. I took business class seat to avoid crowds.. And wife contracted this nuts. Fever was low, but headache and weakness for around a week. Not nice. We are fully vaccinated since February
In US CDC does not want to talk about 3rd shot and that the vaccine is effective for just 6 months to motivate people to get vaccinated (and I think this is important because of variants), but the truth is sad. We need to get new shots periodically and I don't know when this will end.
Hendrik:
--- Quote from: michael123 on July 24, 2021, 11:54:24 am ---And people die. Yes, vaccinated.
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Once everyone is vaccinated, only vaccinated people contract it or even die from the virus. Its a fact many forget. Its why they say its 90% effective (or whatever number the different vaccines list), they don't work for every case.
But the numbers will be vastly reduced.
Vaccination against an evolving virus like this one will never be 100%, but by reducing the cases by 90% already, you limit its ability to spread, and you take a lot of pressure off of the health care system.
Vaccination can also simply mean that you have a far lower reaction to getting infected, because your immune system already has an idea what to do about it.
These are all expected results and widely available information. Getting vaccinated doesn't guarantee immunity. But it gives you a significantly better chance to either not get it, or just beat it quickly without problems.
And yes, its very likely that we'll need to re-up after 6-12 months. Maybe once. Maybe more often. I don't see this as a big deal. You go in and get a quick shot. A bit worse for those with severe reactions to the vaccine, but for the majority you get a bit of aching for a day and thats that. What else are you going to do, just not? Nevermind that you either have to get constantly tested or just be excluded from much social life, its also risking your own health and that of those around you. Its just the reality how it is, and we can't change it. And noone to blame, except for misinformation and bad handling. Around here they certainly are talking about a potential 3rd shot as soon as october for those that got theirs early.
PS:
Personally, I would have advocated to just not go on international vacations over the last year and a half. Its just a risk not worth taking.
avpman:
--- Quote from: Hendrik on July 24, 2021, 03:48:04 pm ---PS:
Personally, I would have advocated to just not go on international vacations over the last year and a half. Its just a risk not worth taking.
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Exactly what I did last year and again this year. Just not worth the risk.
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