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POLL: What's Your Vaccination Status?

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avpman:
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Wheaten:

--- Quote ---Post covid world will be dominated by audiophils and computer users
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That will be a miserable world to live in. +6 glasses, pimpels and discussions on every possible bit .........
We also need Penny's in our world.........

Outlaw Audio:

--- Quote from: Wheaten on July 30, 2021, 11:55:54 am ---That will be a miserable world to live in. +6 glasses, pimpels and discussions on every possible bit .........
We also need Penny's in our world.........

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syndromeofadown:
This topic is a strange thing to post on a support forum. Next, a poll can be done about Jan 6. I can see being curious about the survey, but comments aren't a good idea. It's akin to asking what your religious status is. People will generally answer the religion question based on their indoctrination as a child then defend their choice of deity based on emotion. People will generally start commenting on the vax subject based on their indoctrination from mainstream media. No one has posted anything extreme yet but there is mention of passports and antivaxers.

People are free to protect themselves as they see fit. That's what a vax is, personal protection. This is a personal choice and should be kept personal. To demand that someone else needs an injection so that yours will work is immoral, illogical and a violation of human rights. Before condemning or coercing others I hope that people would spend just a little time researching and thinking about:

- The only thing claimed by the companies that are manufacturing the vax's is that they will reduce symptoms mildly. They were never meant to stop infection or the spread.

- the track record of the companies manufacturing the experimental vax's (search largest settlement in history).

- Who is liable for injuries (hint 1986).

- What the inventors of the PCR test and the MRNA vax have to to say about how their inventions are being used.

- Antibody-dependent enhancement.

- The results of all previous animal trials for similar vax's (which were skipped this time).

- Natural immunity. The idea that heard immunity can only be achieved by a vax has been around as long as the current vax. (search for when definitions were changed).

- The largest censorship campaign in online history.

- Patents, and who owns patents, of viruses and vax's.

- Informed consent.

- There is more to health than being virus free: social health, physical health, mental health, and spiritual health to name just a few.

The negative affects of lock downs to people in my life has been a hundred times worse than the virus, and adverse reactions a thousand. I am not trying to trigger anyone or start a debate. Taking experimental substance as a one size fits all solution for the entire planet is not a decision that should be taken lightly. It's not a political issue. If you are gung ho on your vax now, think about the future. How many booster shots until your enthusiasm wanes. Please show some empathy towards others, educate yourself and act rationally.

tij:

--- Quote from: syndromeofadown on July 31, 2021, 06:11:09 pm ---The negative affects of lock downs to people in my life has been a hundred times worse than the virus, and adverse reactions a thousand. I am not trying to trigger anyone or start a debate. Taking experimental substance as a one size fits all solution for the entire planet is not a decision that should be taken lightly. It's not a political issue. If you are gung ho on your vax now, think about the future. How many booster shots until your enthusiasm wanes. Please show some empathy towards others, educate yourself and act rationally.

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Agree that everybody is entitled to their opinion. Their body - their choice.

And good debate (without bashing or ridiculing your opponent) imho is always better than alternatives.

Vaccines takes years to develop ... but in this case things have been fast track. There are risks to that especcially since this involves a lot of money and political gains. But covid situation is critical, and alternative to not vaccinating is far greater imho (Italy?).

People tend to focus on current missery without realizing it can be much worst. I am not saying lockdown or side effects of vaccine is easy and ppl just wine about it (it is hard both psychologically and financially). But consider alternative when you are sick and get turn down at hospital because there are no place. And this is not hypothetical ... again Italy? ... when doctors turn down eldery cause their chance of survival is less than younger ppl (i do not pretend even to imagine what doctors have to go through when telling this to eldery).

And dont forget all those doctors, nurses, and staff working at hospitals double time (including admin and  cleaners).

Yes, vaccine is not perfect ... yes, there are risks ... but alternative is grimmer.

Ps. I am from third world country (as Bush puts it - from banana country ... as Trump puts it - from s**t hole) ... i took oral polio vaccine (not much choice at that age lol) ... there is small chance i could have got polio from this (OPV contains live virus), but if i were my parents at that time, i would have make my kids take it ... cause alternative is worst.

Pss. These days ppl take injection polio vaccine (IPV) that contain no live virus.

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