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tij:
One of my CDs is partially damaged and some of the tracks cannot be accurately extracted.

I got my hand on Remastered version and able to accurately rip it. Then compared with tracks I was able to accurately extract from origial.

Well ... seems loudness war is global phenome ... can clearly see volume boost and clipping it caused.

What interest me from technical point of view ... if Remastered version was done from 24 bit - wouldn't portions of sound that does not get clipped/compressed have more details in it? ... in other words, you get more "details" in uncompressed/unclipped portion of music at expense of compression/clipping in louder portion?

Just want to hear your opinion

PS: i am hunting for the original version of my damaged CD :/ ... not easy task at streaming age

EDIT: yellow is Remastered

EDIT2: also ... your lustening levels are close to Remastered ... wouldnt boosting analogue volume of original recording also boost equipment noise levels

antenna:

I noticed a similar thing and commented on it here, also with loudness graphs...

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,78945.msg888026.html#msg888026

 

antenna:

--- Quote from: tij on August 28, 2021, 04:03:48 am ---
One of my CDs is partially damaged and some of the tracks cannot be accurately extracted.
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fwiw, I have found that trying various optical drives sometimes helps get past extraction errors.

YMMV.

 

Hendrik:

--- Quote from: tij on August 28, 2021, 04:03:48 am ---What interest me from technical point of view ... if Remastered version was done from 24 bit - wouldn't portions of sound that does not get clipped/compressed have more details in it? ... in other words, you get more "details" in uncompressed/unclipped portion of music at expense of compression/clipping in louder portion?

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While that might technically be true, such details would be 96 dB below peak volume. Not something you can really conciously pick up, but maybe it influences you unconciously.

Of course the answer is to properly dial in the volume, just below clipping, with as much detail as possible. There is no question 24-bit can carry more detail, but the question remains if you can hear it.

stanzani:
What I think? I think it sucks. With globalization the music major are trying to make the CDs sound at their best on cheapy boomy systems limited in dynamics. I heard they also mastered hot the CD layer of some SACD to push the format and ruins Cred book reputation.

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