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NEW: JRVR -- JRiver Video Renderer
Hendrik:
--- Quote from: pepar on September 24, 2021, 10:27:57 am ---I am am curious to know what thinking lead to seeing a need for an in-house renderer? Ease of use for less technically minded, perhaps?
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There aren't exactly any good alternatives ready to use available. Microsofts EVR handles very basic needs only, but is not very extensible and doesn't support many modern features. madVR is fine, but it has several issues that went unaddressed for years and its future is rather uncertain in face of it competing with its own hardware version, despite promises of continued updates in the future, its been a long time since the last update and it doesn't seem like that'll change soon.
Other renderers used by DirectShow players are typically old or based on EVR with all its limitations.
So if we want to offer a reliable video experience that we actually have control over, having our own is the natural conclusion.
In the past we were lucky that madVR's goals aligned with what we needed for video, but actually having control in our own hands just makes more sense.
The second factor is cross-platform support. As we make a new renderer, it'll not only be available for Windows, but also for Linux and Mac, bringing video features much closer to parity between platforms (platform limitations not withstanding).
This has been a long-standing concern for Linux and Mac users, because video playback, while functional, was not even comparable to the Windows experience. We aim to change this now.
Additional concerns like making it easier to use are certainly a bonus and something definitely on my mind when designing the options, but it was not a thought directly driving the decision to start this project.
TL;DR: The current situation on Windows leaves us worrying for the future, and combined with cross-platform goals, this was the only conclusion that could really fullfill our design goals.
--- Quote from: zybex on September 24, 2021, 11:41:09 am ---Regarding features... Have patience, this is a years-long process.
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Hopefully not quite years, but otherwise definitely right. The features outlined in my earlier post in this thread should be ready soon after the first preview release, but anything beyond that (either already listead as a Future Plan above, or beyond that) will just take time, but we are definitely commited to create a quality video renderer that can serve Media Center for years to come.
--- Quote from: zybex on September 24, 2021, 11:41:09 am ---@Hendrik, is JRVR [eventually] usable by other apps like MPC-HC?
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No. Its a core component of Media Center.
JimH:
To add a little to Hendrik's comments, we should have a more efficient renderer that will run on lighter weight gear or do 4K on equipment that isn't quite powerful enough now.
I think that makes it greener too.
lello:
This is great news, especially considering the current prices of GPUs which certainly do not entice you to upgrade your hardware
Manfred:
If iGPU or APU would be enough, this would be very high value regrading green value and money -a RTX 3060 TI cost more than 700€ in Germany which is more than double the price of my old GTX 960 and that only for video upscaling and rendering!
pepar:
Crypto mining might take a pause with China’s new stance. ‘Course, that’ll mean a huge dump of abused GPU’s onto the market. Still that should allow new card prices to drift downward.
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