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henning65:
--- Quote from: mattkhan on February 22, 2022, 10:24:33 am ---It has come up before, JimH was unequivocally against that sort of thing as I recall so I think it is safe to say, not going to happen
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I still hope that the link to marketing might convince the CEO of JRiver... as I said: marketing has changed since 1981.
I'm sad to see a good product missing to find its buyers. That's my impression not only concerning the communication about upcoming releases - but that's not the topic of this post.
toomanybarts:
--- Quote from: FenceFurniture on February 11, 2022, 05:24:44 pm ---That's not the issue Jim - I think all experienced users have complete faith in the JR Team to deliver a fine product. It's more about knowing what's coming along. I suspect that virtually everyone uses MC for Audio, many probably only for Audio (me), and a very small few who do not use it for Audio.
So I have a suggestion which would be beneficial for both sides (the Punters, and JRiver). If you were to list the things that you are definitely working on now, and going to work on later (particularly with respect to Audio) then we can make a much more informed decision as to whether to jump on board with the early bird pricing. The benefit for JRiver is of course in cashflow, plus a much earlier indication of upgrade sales.
The last thing I want to do is to get on board early only to find out I didn't really need the upgrade because there was little in the way of Audio upgrades that were of interest to me, but plenty for other media.
It would also be good if the nag screen bidding me for a new version could turned off. When I have no intention of upgrading it is a real PITA.
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This ^^^^
Use Plex for video playback.
J River for audio.
I’ve skipped releases in the past as there just wasn’t a(n audio) reason to upgrade.
Holding for now on MC28.
coronelj:
I’m personally not interested at all in video performance, but using JRiver just for audio purposes, so JRiver should not underestimate audio users…
Awesome Donkey:
--- Quote from: coronelj on February 22, 2022, 04:03:05 pm ---I’m personally not interested at all in video performance, but using JRiver just for audio purposes, so JRiver should not underestimate audio users…
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I don't think they are underestimating audio users, they are working on DSP improvements in MC29 after all.
But you guys have to realize that audio support in Media Center in general is pretty mature and what I would consider mostly feature complete with a wide list of supported audio features. To me this would mean there isn't really major leaps and bounds Media Center can take besides improving existing features when it comes to audio. My point is, Media Center already supports bit-perfect audio output, has the SoX resampler as an option, has the TPDF dithering as an option, has tons of DSP effects, has support for VST2 and VST3 plugins, WDM driver, HDCD support, supports both ASIO and WASAPI on Windows, CoreAudio on macOS, ALSA on Linux, DSD bitstreaming support for native DSD, DoP and DoPE, etc. Which I'd argue is what most audio enthusiasts care about in a media player for audio only.
Yes, I know people want streaming service (Tidal, Qobuz, Amazon, etc.) support and things like MQA support or other things like implementing the full SoX suite or even things like integrating HQPlayer or just implementing the different filters HQPlayer has, etc. If you do a search of the forums you'll see posts from over the years with JRiver stating they're not interested in those things and have no plans on implementing them. And you have to understand, there are some rather elaborate audio-related feature requests I've seen posted that I don't really think are doable in a relatively short amount of time and ultimately they (JRiver) can't do everything that everyone wants/requests. That's one of the reasons why having a feature requests forum section (with upvoting) is a bad idea, in my opinion.
So, eventually there comes a point where expecting some new, amazing audio features hits a point of diminishing returns, and I hate to say it but we're probably past that point now. That said, there are audio features (or rather improvements to existing features) that I'd like to see like equivalents to the WMD driver on macOS and Linux. Implementing CD playback and ripping on Linux are also nearly at the top of my list. The Atmos audio only files with bitstreaming request seems intriguing to me as well. Also being able to extract individual DSF/DFF files from a SACD ISO like sacd_extract does without doing any conversions. Or if you want to "convert" DSF to DFF or vice versa, just repackaging and changing the container without any conversion.
I mean think about it for a few minutes and post here what you think is a tangible, realistic NEW audio-related feature that's missing from Media Center (that's not streaming service, MQA, full SoX, HQPlayer, new UI/skinning engine, etc. related)? I can honestly only think of improvements to existing features and macOS/Linux equivalents to the WDM driver.
Gl3nn:
--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on February 22, 2022, 04:18:22 pm ---I mean think about it for a few minutes and post here what you think is a tangible, realistic NEW audio-related feature that's missing from Media Center (that's not streaming service, MQA, full SoX, HQPlayer, etc. related)? I can honestly only think of improvements to existing features and macOS/Linux equivalents to the WDM driver.
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I've been off-grid for a couple of years, so this may have been discussed/dismissed but: Sonos integration which allows for synced multi-room play? Or a simple user-friendly front-end skinning engine for standard view?
Nevertheless, I've used MC since it was MJ, and I used to be an exclusively audio guy but have gradually embraced MC's video capabilities, to my benefit. So, that.
And really... $28 for a full platform upgrade for 9-12 months... have you gassed-up your car lately? (or paid your electric bill...)
I don't mean to offend anyone but that's my take on a product I've enjoyed and used for a long time.
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