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Atmos decoded in both PC/Mac
retro:
--- Quote from: mojave on April 25, 2022, 06:14:35 pm ---The Atmos is only decoded for music which you have to rip to MKV. It doesn't work for movies. You also are limited to playback with the Dolby Reference Player. You can't use JRiver or anything else for playback.
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mojave,
You are not up to date..movies work too.. :)
And you can use JRiver (Mac)). With 16-ch decoded Atmos sound..no need for DRP for playback any longer.. ;D
elguapo:
--- Quote from: mojave on April 25, 2022, 06:14:35 pm ---You can't use JRiver or anything else for playback.
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The point is which software can handle video w/ 16ch LPCM.
Based on my limited experiments we have two options both successfully playback plus DSP and upsampling to multichannel DSD256 (I'm using HQPlayer as DSP engine):
* macOS' QuickTime Player can do that but no audio delay adjustment. Suggest using DaVinci Resolve (free version is enough) to modify the audio starting frame based on your DSP's time delay and export a .mov for playback.
* Using muxer tools like MKVToolNix to make a video with 16 channels LPCM and playback from macOS' JRiver.The latter one has more advanced audio delay adjustment and DSP. But unfortunately Windows' JRiver cannot decode the 16 channels LPCM. Still trying some other available codecs. So that's why we brought up in here and find the way out for Window's JRiver.
I personally think the extra labor for such playback method is ignorable, roughly a whole movie + demux / remux processing time and also not that hard.
jmone:
--- Quote from: retro on April 24, 2022, 05:09:37 pm ---.....I'm surprised about the lack of responses and further discussions..?!?
Am I the only one here that think this is a really big thing?
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FYI - I'd be all over this like a rash simply to get MC's excellent Video Clock on my 7.2.4 setup if (or at at some point)
- ATMOS could be decoded directly by MC (without the remuxing)
- GPU's HDMI Audio Drivers support more than 8ch (eg HDMI 2.0 spec supports up to 32ch but the drivers don't)
- ?? AVR support receiving more than 8ch over HDMI (I just don't know if they do or not)
jmone:
FYI - I had a look at that sample clip in DaVinci Resolve (Fairlight) and it certainly has 16 discrete audio tracks all with different wave forms (well one track was blank in that clip). Pretty impressive.
retro:
--- Quote ---FYI - I'd be all over this like a rash simply to get MC's excellent Video Clock on my 7.2.4 setup if (or at at some point)
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Agreed! And you can use Video Clock on these decoded Atmos files right now, can't you..?
--- Quote ---ATMOS could be decoded directly by MC (without the remuxing)
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No doubt, that would be the best solution. If it happens. But that's a big if..
The solution outlined in the link of my first post, it's a solution that works now.
Entry fee is $400, but IMO absolutely worth it. What kind of Atmos AVR can u buy for that amount..?
--- Quote ---- GPU's HDMI Audio Drivers support more than 8ch (eg HDMI 2.0 spec supports up to 32ch but the drivers don't)
- ?? AVR support receiving more than 8ch over HDMI (I just don't know if they do or not)
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The limits of HDMI is a non-issue in this scenario, I think? The Atmos audio is already decoded.
--- Quote ---FYI - I had a look at that sample clip in DaVinci Resolve (Fairlight) and it certainly has 16 discrete audio tracks all with different wave forms (well one track was blank in that clip). Pretty impressive.
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Yes, it is impressive. All credit to elguapo and The Computer Audiophile.. :)
Now we just need MC on Win to cooperate. MC on Mac and Linux already do.. 8)
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