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NEW: JRVR Video Enhancements in Media Center 30
eve:
--- Quote from: Hendrik on November 04, 2022, 07:12:18 am ---I wouldn't recommend trying to force processing of a Blu-ray DV title through JRVR right now. Without full processing, especially on FEL titles, the resulting image may not necessarily be "better", as its unpredictable what half the processing might do.
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Actually a good point. I don't use JRVR for these and frankly, it *would* be unpredictable with JRVR since that understands DV metadata. In my system, I'm still running my remuxes (which contain DV + the fallback) through MadVR with no issue.
Sorry for the confusion.
TheShoe:
--- Quote from: danbez on November 05, 2022, 01:06:59 pm ---Can you give me one example of solution that provides full DV support and Lossless sound on MKV files? I am not aware of any ATM. As I said before, some come close - like ChromeCast with Google TV, but fails to provide lossless sound.
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Yep - seems you are correct - there isn't a 100% solution. After some experimenting today, here's where I ended up:
I remuxed Saving Private Ryan (a notable use case - thanks) using tsMuxer from the playlist 0800.mpls
tsMuxer identified both video tracks (main + enhancement layer) and rexumed into a ts file. From there MediaInfo confirmed both video tracks are in the file. Second video track is: dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU
The ts file plays fine on my Oppo 203 in Dolby Vision, and interestingly it plays fine on the Dune (no flashing around the 2:35min mark -it's quite noticeable and annoying). The Dune identifies it as: Dolby Vision P7 DT DL.
The mkv file I created earlier using MakeMKV is identified by the Dune as Dolby Vision P7 ST DL -- since it combines it into one video track, BL+EL+RPU as confirmed by MediaInfo
Now we know the Dune is not really using the enhancement layer as has been pointed out on various other forums, but in the .ts file case, we seem to still have Dolby Vision with an EL+RPU video track, and the playback at least in the .ts container exhibits none of the flashing that the full BDMV backup and the MKV files do.
I went and played back the raw m2ts file on the Dune, and it showed it as P7 DT DL, but it has the flashing. I'd consider this a bug in the Dune, and would guess that in general, while not 100% DV FEL support, it should not be exhibiting the artifacts either.
Ultimately I think Dolby makes things far more complicated than necessary. Hoping Hendrik can figure out how to add additional support over time to Media Center, as I'm not inclined to use a stand-alone STB for various reasons and much prefer an HTPC.
Sorry for the off-topic - was just an interesting aside and learned somethings today at least.
danbez:
--- Quote from: TheShoe on November 07, 2022, 05:11:36 pm ---Yep - seems you are correct - there isn't a 100% solution. After some experimenting today, here's where I ended up:
I remuxed Saving Private Ryan (a notable use case - thanks) using tsMuxer from the playlist 0800.mpls
tsMuxer identified both video tracks (main + enhancement layer) and rexumed into a ts file. From there MediaInfo confirmed both video tracks are in the file. Second video track is: dvhe.07.06, EL+RPU
The ts file plays fine on my Oppo 203 in Dolby Vision, and interestingly it plays fine on the Dune (no flashing around the 2:35min mark -it's quite noticeable and annoying). The Dune identifies it as: Dolby Vision P7 DT DL.
The mkv file I created earlier using MakeMKV is identified by the Dune as Dolby Vision P7 ST DL -- since it combines it into one video track, BL+EL+RPU as confirmed by MediaInfo
Now we know the Dune is not really using the enhancement layer as has been pointed out on various other forums, but in the .ts file case, we seem to still have Dolby Vision with an EL+RPU video track, and the playback at least in the .ts container exhibits none of the flashing that the full BDMV backup and the MKV files do.
I went and played back the raw m2ts file on the Dune, and it showed it as P7 DT DL, but it has the flashing. I'd consider this a bug in the Dune, and would guess that in general, while not 100% DV FEL support, it should not be exhibiting the artifacts either.
Ultimately I think Dolby makes things far more complicated than necessary. Hoping Hendrik can figure out how to add additional support over time to Media Center, as I'm not inclined to use a stand-alone STB for various reasons and much prefer an HTPC.
Sorry for the off-topic - was just an interesting aside and learned somethings today at least.
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Thanks for checking! Yes, that's why I am really hopeful that Hendrik will manage to tackle this issue and make JRiver the first full solution - providing full DV/Lossless sound/MKV support. :D
Steviewunda:
--- Quote from: Valephar on November 01, 2022, 05:07:29 pm ---
2.) When I set the JRVR preset to quality, it always defaults back to Performance when I go back in. It feels like it should be an option, that when selected, it should stay selected. Not sure if I am doing it wrong. Are you only meant to load the preset and then it defaults back to performance?
Not sure if you know about these, or if I am doing anything wrong, but I just thought I'd mention it.
Thanks
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Hi - I am experiencing this as well. Can someone respond please - if I select the Quality Preset and apply it, shouldn't it be selected if I go back in?
Cheers
jmone:
Nope (& I also was confused at first) - Think of it as a "Load Profile" button rather than a fixed "Preset". The idea is that it will change JRVR settings to the selected values.... but you can still modify or tweak them as you wish.
Edit - Think about it more as if it was as per this pic where it defaults back to the text asking you to pick an option to load rather than what option was loaded:
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