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Arjuna

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What is a Tag?
« on: December 05, 2003, 08:32:48 pm »

I went to Help and still do not know  ?

Is a tag like a bookmark?

I have more than 20 questions  ::) I will try to only ask one a day.

Thanks

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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2003, 08:40:55 pm »

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have more than 20 questions   I will try to only ask one a day

Please submit all questions at one time, it will cost you more if you brake them up each day.

An ID3v1 And Or Id3v1.1 Tag Is the last 128 Bytes Of A Mp3 file and starts with "TAG" (See Below), this contains Artist, Song Name, Album, Year, Genre (One Byte), And Comment all fields were 30 bytes long

ID3v1.1 Added Track # and took 2 bytes from the comment field

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TAGTubular Bells                 Mike Oldfield                 Mike Oldfield                 1973My Top Hits - Disk 0017       <


ID3v2.3 ID3v2.4 is more complex and would take many hours to explain but is normaly located in the first 5,000 bytes in a mp3 file and contain all info above and more to include a cover art picture. blaaa blaaa blaaa
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2003, 08:47:29 pm »

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ID3v2.3 ID3v2.4 is more complex and would take many hours to explain but is normaly located in the first 5,000 bytes in a mp3 file and contain all info above and more to include a cover art picture

Which is why so many despise this form of tagging. Hint: apev2 tag compatibility in mp3's.
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Arjuna

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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2003, 08:55:56 pm »

Thanks, I think I get it now. I will see if I can figure out how to edit them.

I am a slow learner,  ::) if I had my 20 answers, now, I would probably forget some of them.

I do hope that you all do not mind if I ask a simple question, from time to time.

MC9 sure does play my video clips better than WMP 9 for XP.

May try to burn a DVD, this weekend.

Back to the MC9.

Cheers to you King of The Spartans!

AJ
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2003, 01:31:32 am »

A while back I asked a stupid question about tagging and file names and KingSparta indicated that "Tags should be inside the file and that they have nothing to do with the file name".

I realize now that I neglected to mention that my question related to my desire to build a music collection that consisted solely of uncompressed CD rips, which don't have embedded tags.  

With LisaRCT's help I now understand that MC9 can "Fill properties from filename". I've been experimenting with name construction and still haven't found an elegant method to incorporate all the necessary info into the file name for MC9 to fill from.

Would someone please share their technique, or more specifically, the field order they use, in constructing useful file names for .wav files?

Track
Track Number
CD or Artist Title
Release Year
CD Title
ID3 Music Type
Music Type
CD Artist


Thanks, and I hope I haven't asked yet another stupid question.

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jleerigby

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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2003, 05:10:53 am »

I use [Track #] - [Artist] - [Name] - [Album] for track names.  Having track # first ensures that the tracks are listed in the correct order when viewed in explorer (even multi-artist albums).  You could add [year] and [genre] to the end if you wish.

I use the popular folder structure of \artist\album where compliations are stored as assorted\album.
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2003, 05:32:10 am »

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I realize now that I neglected to mention that my question related to my desire to build a music collection that consisted solely of uncompressed CD rips, which don't have embedded tags.

well someone said that there is a new tag for wave i have never heard of it

and why would you use wave as a file type?

if you wish to use a format that is lossless use Ape it uses tags and there is no loss in quality and also will save you drive space.
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2003, 05:37:03 am »

I use [Track #] - [Artist] - [Name] - [Album] for track names.  Having track # first ensures that the tracks are listed in the correct order when viewed in explorer (even multi-artist albums).  You could add [year] and [genre] to the end if you wish.

I use the popular folder structure of \artist\album where compliations are stored as assorted\album.

I use "F:\Music Library\[Artist]\[Date (year)] - [Album]\[Track #]. [Name]"
( for example "E:\Music Library\Beatles\1966 - Revolver\01. Taxman" )

So all files are well organized, First I see Artists, the albums sorted by year and then songs with track order. For  "multiple artists" albums I use "Various Artists\Year - Album\Track#.  Name (Artist)"

I used to have filenames "[Artist] - [Year] - [Album] - [Track #] - [Name]" but  because MC shows full path and filename in tooltips I can't use that anymore 'cause the tooltips don't fit to screen anymore so I had to change filename to "[Track #]. [Name]"

I hope someday we can select which tags we can see in tooltips..
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2003, 12:40:22 pm »

and all this time I though a 'Tag' was that little square thing in the back of a blouse that makes your back itchy.   :P

I use:
Artist - Album - Track# - TrackName
it meets all my needs.  
Then again I use APE format and thus other tags such as Genre are saved within.
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2003, 02:32:00 pm »

>JLee
>JaWe
Thank you very much. Good ideas. I appreciate you taking the time to share them.


>KingSparta
With a 4TB server, storage space isn't currently an issue. In a year or two, when it becomes an issue, I'll transition to lossless compression.


Does anyone else have naming system they're proud of?
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LisaRCT

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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2003, 09:24:04 pm »

Thanks, and I hope I haven't asked yet another stupid question.

There is no such thing as stupid questions.
But there certainly ARE such things as stupid answers . . . .
If you'd like I will demonstrate . . .  ..   :P
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2003, 11:18:13 pm »

Hi LisaRCT
I'm sorry they whitewashed your post about your sig other.  I don't know what the big deal is.
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Re:What is a Tag?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2003, 11:45:46 am »

Hi LisaRCT
I'm sorry they whitewashed your post about your sig other.  I don't know what the big deal is.

Thanks blafarm   ;)
I hear ya, but that's OK, no biggie.
Sometimes my brand of 'humor' gets a bit off for some.
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