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eve:

--- Quote from: tkolsto on October 15, 2022, 06:07:01 am ---eve. when You use 5 pull down/120 hz/fps one can choose whatever hdr madvr setting in madvr one like, like pixel shader and dont activate the hdr logo/tvs hdr? I think maybe it is best just to use pixel shader and not tick off ,send hdr data til the Tv? or do you just choose let madvr decide? And maybe You turn off tonemapping when one use Tvs hdr handeling? Or does nothing of this matter and one can choose whatever one want? I think I read somewhere that the ting now was to not activate hdr and just let madvr to everything in processing of videos?

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I've tried using MadVR for tonemapping HDR > HDR which tonemaps but still outputs an HDR signal. It's nothing special IMO, if your TV's implementation of tonemapping is poor, or you're using an older projector that TAKES HDR but is in no way really HDR (very, very few consumer projectors are *actually* HDR) then using MadVR instead of those tonemapping algorithms can be superior. While the LG displays are not 100% HDR (They just cannot really hit 1000 nits, you're looking at at most 700 on a good day outside of measurements) whatever mapping they do (not controlled by the tonemapping setting in the display) is good and works better than even the MadVR betas IMO

eve:

--- Quote from: tkolsto on October 15, 2022, 01:10:03 pm ---I finally got to test alien covenant. and it was not good at all. stutter in most movement. only calm static pictures where ok as they always are. I did not noticed this on interstellar but had a strong suspicioun that this was the case. The opening scene in alien covenant in the white room was awful. and the scenes where the spaceship flying over the screen likewise. This is a clear dealbreaker. Interpolation and pixel shader and the use of highligth recovery strength is a better solution. But the problem here is that it is not rock solid, sometimes it is tight and is all good and then othertimes it is like things are not cooperating and create bad motion like geting clear artifacts or small hang ups in images, hard to explain. but when this happens motion is not good.

I do think that is shouldnt be so bad and that it is only like on this on my screen/TV or maybe You have the same and does not care. My initial thought was that all motion more or less was stutterfree and with uniform images in motion, without the shivering effect on movement. It would have been nice to know if You had the same result on your setup in this movie. I doubt you would consider it a good choice. I got the impression that You got a tight motion and only some little tiny stutter one very rapid motion and that only on large "bad" panning of the whole image would get some judder stutter.

If You have the same result more or less, then I can not use this. Then Oled is crap in my eyes and unbelievable that people can watch it. I do think it might be something wrong with my pc or tv and that is why I get black blinks in exlusive mode wich is a huge alarm bell since this should scorn JRiver for any inteference from other misbehaving software.

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I've watched Covenant in the past (terrible movie... please just somebody stop Ridley Scott, though that first 'spine burster' is incredible) on this display and it wasn't bad at all.

Yeah any 'annoying' motion stuff I notice is inherent to the movie / 24fps and not really the display. I indeed find this far more pleasing than other display's motion.

eve:

--- Quote from: tkolsto on October 15, 2022, 01:26:11 pm ---and now also the fan is noisy which indicate that gpu struggles after I just ticked on some features in madvr processing setting(did not tinker with the settings just ticked it and used what was already suggested). aritfact removal and image enhancement(this last one got all the fans get noisy) I dont know that much about these features, but should this not be a no match of this gpu? thus another indicator that something is wrong and draw a lot of power that it shouldnt draw? or these setting insanely impacting the gpu and is normal. I am just playing around with this gpu now to see what it is good for. I did not touch these settings on the above rendering of alien covenant.

I also tested this youtube video of greece at 10 min 50 sec and then let it play for some seconds showing the camera come out from a tunnel in the mountain and the rocks is shivering on the right of the tunnel as the camera flyes out ot the tunnel. so this card is not performing better than my 3050. this happens when I play this video in 120 hz and interpolation dejudder at 7 and bfi at low. I does not handle this. I have to set resolution in windows to 60 hz and then it is almost perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSRKFAmfqnI&t=691s

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Okay so this youtube video is NOT 60 or 120 fps. What are you trying to accomplish? A better test would be grabbing it with yt-dlp and putting it into JRiver so you can utilize MadVR.

As for GPU load? MadVR isn't phenomenally efficient and it WILL load your GPU depending on settings.

tkolsto:
Ohh thank you for responding. wasnt actually expecting a response on a saturday :-).

I Am not sure I fully understood your commen on Lg hdr tonemapping(this is the option, let madvr decide or passthrough hdr to display) vs madvr pixe shaders tonemapping. Did you say in the last sentence that lg does very good tonemapping, better than even madvr beta and that is what You use(ex let madvr decide setting)? I thought choosing pixelshaders was the best option and best performance wise. or is this option only about madvr tonemapping and nothing else..like better performance and less artifacts which I think I get. not 100 persent sure on this one. but I think choosing highlight recovery strength medium did produce less interpolation artifacts. I checked this on a starwars movie and the artifact one get infront of the nose of the spaceships flying through the light clouds( glorie or some space that is blurred, as in not clear) this was gone or not visable. pleasent surprize.


about that yt video. which is probably 50 or 60 hz video is better watched with lower hz in windows display, same goes for the 50 hz netflix videos. that is why I always setting at 60 hz because then I get the best result, if not my system like with jrvier movies decides to suddenly do bad videohandeling. very strange when suddenly there is way more artifacts in the video and stutter ...often goes hand in hand when this happens. as for jriver and youtube, I might look at that. It is not that important for me as windows at 60 hz when working is ok.



Ok so in Covenant movie in white bright room opening scene you also get this erractic stutter as the person walks across the room and movement in close up the lines along the face shivers a lot this type of stuff? And such things does not bother You? like when the robotoid sit in a chair at very start and raised himself from the chair and the head is shivering and also as he then walks across the floor..the body is shivering as it walks. same goes when he walks from the piano to get the man a coup of tea? I try to describe this as accurate as I can...I have a feeling that this is to bad to be normal and that you does not get it that bad. also when the camera move up to the robotoids face while he plays the piano..the bright background and the edge along his face is shivering a lot. This is how bad it is at my tv. I tried to describe it as accurate than I can with words. Does this sounds familiar to you too?

tkolsto:
Using my 3050 card. first choosing best quality setting in madvr jriver setting and then go into madvr advanced setting and set it at pixel shader and highlights recovery strenght at medium. then the card is rendering at around 14 or 15 ms. and if I tick under processing setting the artifact removals three first settings leaving the noise reduction unticked. so just the 3 other options ticked(bandig, ringing and compression artifacts ticked). I get rendering time around 30 ms so there is still headroom 41 ms. I dont think I need a new card. (now I am talking about the use of interpolation dejudder at 7 and bfi at low or medium. not using 5 pulldown because it was to bad for me. This is the best solution if my description of the scenes at covenant in prievious post is normal and not due to some kind of bad performance or a faulty of some kind which I suspect is the case. It cant be that bad I think.

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