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[ilektranik]

Hello all,

I'm running MC26 under Ubnutu. MC is by far the best music library and player around (Album / Songs  Presentation and the Analyzer). As I have stated before, MC is the only non open source software I use. The only software I pay for.

We have MC29 available and 30 coming. Will any of them give me what I desire:

1. Have the DSP Studio remember it's position and size. (Or a command line option to configure same.)
2. Have the DSP Studio Start, Stop and Minimize / Maximize in concert with the main MC interface.
3. Allow other audio sources (Aux. Input)  to run through the DSP Studio without importing them into MC. (e.g. streaming; FM radio, local Blu-Ray drive.)
4. Improve Tag editing in MC. (Going to EasyTAG and deleting and importing to see the changes in MC gets old.)

?

Tnx,

ilektranik

[ilektranik]

OK.

I guess not.

Here's another issue: The new LogiTech MX Masters are the best mice ever (except no left handed version). Scroll with them in the MC content pane and the scrolling won't stop.

The LogiTech has an actual magnetically controlled free spinning scroll wheel. MC is probably just responding to the actual mouse input. When you stop the wheel the scroll goes on through most of a 10 TB music library.

I believe limiting the mouse buffer in size would resolve this with out any deleterious effects.

[mwillems]

So I'm not seeing an issue with DSP Studio forgetting its position or size with MC 30 on Arch Linux using Gnome.  So it's possible that some of your UI concerns have been addressed in recent versions.  I'm not sure I understand what your #2 is describing, so I can't comment there.  There is definitely still no way to do #3 (to feed external audio into JRiver's DSP on Linux) though.

I can also confirm that the mouse buffer issue you're describing has been much improved in recent versions. I reported it as a bug a year or two back and bob made some improvements in this area.  I still have occasional over-scrolling issues, but it's much better than it was a few years ago so I'd suggest you test that in MC 30 as well to see if this issue is working correctly for you now.

Can you describe what tagging issue you're hitting in JRiver?  I use MC for tagging every day, and it mostly works as expected.  If you're hitting something unusual there may be a way to fix it.

[ilektranik]

mwillems,

Tnx for the response.

#1 I mean over application restarts. The MC main program remembers its location over application restarts and system reboots. The DSP Studio does not. It always starts in the same undesired position and size. Also, if the DSP Studio is switched to, let’s say, the Output Format tab, the Analyzer retains that size and position instead of the preferred manually set ones.

#2 You have a main pane with the music and controls. You have a secondary pane with the DSP stidio. To totally minimize MC29 you must minimize both panes. Ditto to maximize them. Note: If DSP Studio is a separate process (which would allow me to manipulate it to some extent via gdevilspie), I cannot locate it.

I simply wish to configure the panes and call and minimize / maximize them together at sizes and locations I choose. You know, like almost every GUI application we use.

#4 Tagging in MC, under Ubuntu, is slow, buggy and unreliable. Keyboard and cut / paste responses are abysmal. The interface leaves a lot to be desired. Use MC and then EasyTag to re-tag all 53 Rolling Stones albums you have and every song on them and you’ll see what I mean. I have 118 Beatles albums. EasyTag easy (except for Delete / Impoirt in MC). MC not so much. To quote you, mwillems, “it mostly works as expected.” Mostly.

The mouse issue is not improved enough that I can use the scroll wheel. I have to use the scroll bar and draggggg to the position I want. Very annoying.

There are several adequate open source music applications. JRiver is competing with free. I like MC very much for music. For video, you’ll never supplant VLC. But you gotta justify to customers spending infinity % more for a paid product.

ilektranik

[Awesome Donkey]

The first one you'll have to try and test MC30 and see.

The second one is still there, each window is basically considered its own, that's just how MC's window system works on all OSes. You can't minimize nor restore all windows at once, you still have to do them one at a time. So I'm not sure if this would ever change or not, if I had to guess perhaps not because it's probably not simple. Plus there's probably a group of users (which I'd include myself in this group) that prefers the current behaviour and if such a thing is added it would have to be optional otherwise it could be very annoying.

The third one definitely isn't a thing unfortunately. Hopefully it's possible in the future, I guess it depends if a WDM driver equivalent is added for non-Windows platforms.

The fourth is another thing where I'd suggest testing MC30 and see if the issue has been gone away. There's been a lot of changes since MC26, and improvements in the tag editor (both the new and old tag editors) has been ongoing as time passes.

[ilektranik]

But you advertise running MC30 under Linux.

You're an admin.

Can't you just tell us?

[Awesome Donkey]

I'm a forum admin, yes. But I don't work for JRiver, just another user like you.

Again, it's probably better, easier and quicker to just try it for yourself and find out as nobody likely knows the answers to your first and fourth questions in regards to your specific system and setup. MC30 has been running perfectly fine for me on Linux, but your expectations and experiences are different than mine or anyone else's hence why it's just easier to find out for yourself. There can be other factors involved here that can affect MC on Linux like desktop environment which can create a different experience, e.g. GNOME vs. KDE Plasma, so the best advice is to just try it for yourself and see.