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Don't keep converted files for external devices
AlreadyFree:
--- Quote from: JimH on December 24, 2022, 08:55:02 am ---Are you using Handheld Sync from the Action Window?
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Sync_Handheld
Or ... ?
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I'm choosing Send To/Drives & Devices in the context menu
--- Quote from: HPBEME on December 24, 2022, 05:43:20 pm ---I tried both settings ("next to file" and "none") on two additional albums with the exact same results ("none" worked, and "next to file" generated duplicate converted files in the source folder). So for me at least, this setting absolutely controls whether files are generated in the source location (in addition to the destination directory). So I think if you set Options/File Locations/Conversion Cache/Audio to "none", that should solve your problem.
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I tried this again and it worked just like you said. I don't know what I did wrong the first time. But thanks, that fixed that problem. Any ideas on how to work around the second issue?
--- Quote from: AlreadyFree on December 23, 2022, 06:43:49 pm ---Also if I use JRC to send files that aren't in my library yet (by adding them to player and then using 'sendto device') then JRC automatically adds the original files on my computer to my library after sending copies to the device. I do not want this behavior. I only want files added to my library that are in my auto-import folders. Is there a way to change this also?
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HPBEME:
--- Quote from: AlreadyFree on December 23, 2022, 06:43:49 pm ---Also if I use JRC to send files that aren't in my library yet (by adding them to player and then using 'sendto device') then JRC automatically adds the original files on my computer to my library after sending copies to the device. I do not want this behavior. I only want files added to my library that are in my auto-import folders. Is there a way to change this also?
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What exactly does "adding them to player" mean? Since you indicate you have auto-import folders designated, I presume it means you are copy/pasting files from a non-auto-import folder?
If that is the case, I don't think it will work because I am pretty sure MC treats a "paste" into the program as an import... but I am not 100% positive about that. The auto-import folders are just that, folders that MC "watches and automatically imports" any new files. However, you can still add files to your library manually too, e.g., pasting, drag-n-drop, etc., directly into MC. If you use these approaches, I am not sure there is a way to prevent them from being imported at the same time, but other's more knowledgeable may be able to provide a solution.
So... If I understand correctly, your goal is to use MC to convert "non-library" files (located in non-auto-import folders) for use on a portable/handheld device, and once completed, neither original or converted files end up in MC's library? Is that right? Just looking for absolute clarity, so those who might be able to answer what I cannot know exactly what it is you are trying to achieve.
There is one setting that might affect this in the pic below. Though it says "automatically import files when played", it could be that it imports files when MC performs any operation - since "playing" a file is an MC "operation" - perhaps other "operations" trigger an import? Just a guess though.
And FYI... I doubt anybody was confused by the JRC acronym, but... typically MC (Media Center) is used, or sometimes the longer JR-MC (JRiver Media Center), but not JRC. Using consistent acronyms returns better/more relevant search results.
AlreadyFree:
--- Quote from: HPBEME on December 28, 2022, 11:48:28 am ---What exactly does "adding them to player" mean?
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I mean right-clicking an album folder in Windows Explorer and choosing "Add to playing now" in the context menu so that it shows up in the "Player" tab in the left pane of MC (shown in attached pic).
--- Quote from: HPBEME on December 28, 2022, 11:48:28 am ---So... If I understand correctly, your goal is to use MC to convert "non-library" files (located in non-auto-import folders) for use on a portable/handheld device, and once completed, neither original or converted files end up in MC's library? Is that right?
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Yes, exactly right.
--- Quote from: HPBEME on December 28, 2022, 11:48:28 am ---There is one setting that might affect this in the pic below. Though it says "automatically import files when played", it could be that it imports files when MC performs any operation - since "playing" a file is an MC "operation" - perhaps other "operations" trigger an import? Just a guess though.
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I did notice that setting but I have it unselected already so that doesn't seem to apply to this situation.
--- Quote from: HPBEME on December 28, 2022, 11:48:28 am ---And FYI... I doubt anybody was confused by the JRC acronym, but... typically MC (Media Center) is used, or sometimes the longer JR-MC (JRiver Media Center), but not JRC. Using consistent acronyms returns better/more relevant search results.
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;D I remembered everyone using a specific acronym to refer to JRiver Media Center but apparently I guessed wrong on that one. It's been corrected in the original post just for clarification.
HPBEME:
Thanks for the clarifications.
That said, when I follow the steps that you did, I get exactly what I think you want - no files are added to my main (auto import) music folders, and the converted files are only added to the portable folder I specified. Nothing new is added to the MC library database.
The only suggestion I have left is to scrutinize your specified file/folder locations in both the Configure Auto Import dialog, as well as the settings in the handheld dialog shown in the pix below. Maybe also confirm that the File Locations/Conversion Cache setting is still set to "none". Maybe it got toggled off by accident?
AlreadyFree:
--- Quote from: HPBEME on December 28, 2022, 01:38:36 pm ---That said, when I follow the steps that you did, I get exactly what I think you want - no files are added to my main (auto import) music folders, and the converted files are only added to the portable folder I specified. Nothing new is added to the MC library database.
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Just to clarify, the problem wasn't that files were getting added to the auto import folders. The file locations were remaining the same but the flac files in the folder outside of the auto import folders were being added to MC's internal library after sending converted mp3 versions to the external device.
However I didn't retest that after setting "Conversion Cache" to "None". After testing now, I can confirm that making that change fixes this problem as well. It still definitely doesn't seem like the correct intended behavior for this setting to control and is far from intuitive (maybe a developer can chime in or just finds it worthwhile enough to silently correct it) but regardless, my issues have both been remedied. Thanks for all the assistance. Hopefully this will help someone else too at some point.
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