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Rick King

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Automatically play file attribute.
« on: December 24, 2022, 09:24:35 pm »

OK. I'm the new guy asking a question that has probably been answered many time.

How do I set MC to automatically play each file with inherent properties. My DAC using Audirvarna just switches from a 16bit/44.1kHz file to a DSD512 file automatically.

So far when I set DSP it plays all files as DSD. If I select none, DSD512 files are distorted. I also tried no up or down mix.
Sorry, I can't figure it out.

What am I doing wrong?
Rick
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Re: Automatically play file attribute.
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2022, 07:08:58 am »

It should just play, if the DAC supports the format.

You can use DSP Studio > Output Settings to convert when needed.

What version of MC are you using?
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Rick King

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Re: Automatically play file attribute.
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2022, 07:38:07 am »

Thank you for your reply...

I have MC 30.
My DAC supports up to 32/768kHz and DSD up to DSD512.

Currently MC30 either plays everything at PCM. If I use DSP everything plays as DSD.

I would like MC30 to automatically play the file with it's inherent attribute.

As stated Audivarna simply plays the files attributes automatically. However, they no longer support my version and don't particularly care for their new options. I simply set the XMOS output and it reads the files and outputs in that format.

I really like MC30 and did purchase. I am sure I am not setting it up properly.
Cheers
Rick

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Re: Automatically play file attribute.
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2022, 07:46:20 am »

Don't use DSP Studio > Output Format > Output Encoding to playback DSD, as it'll convert everything including PCM to DSD.

Instead you should enable DSD bitstreaming, and that should do the trick.

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/DSD

There is a few things you should know, one thing you should know is if your DAC supports native DSD playback or DSD-over-PCM (DoP) or if it supports both of them. I going assume it's going to be both here, but I don't think you mentioned which DAC you're using.

Anyways DoP is dependant on the max PCM sample rate of your DAC, which means with DoP and a max PCM sample rate of 768 kHz with your DAC you're going to be limited to DSD256 via DoP. To playback DSD512 you'd have to use native DSD playback (on Windows likely via an ASIO driver) and not DoP. Another thing is that if you're using macOS it has no support for native DSD playback via CoreAudio, so you're going to be limited to DoP and DSD256 there regardless what you do. On Windows the DAC manufacturer likely has an ASIO driver available, which should allow for native DSD playback at the full DSD512 after switching to the ASIO audio output for your DAC in MC's audio options. Linux might work too with native DSD, assuming the Linux kernel you're using has support for your DAC.

On Windows if you're using WASAPI for audio output, it's limited to DoP only. As mentioned before, native DSD on Windows requires an ASIO driver provided by your DAC's manufacturer and set as the audio output in MC's audio options.

Here's a quick cheat sheet for DSD via DoP and what it requires:

DSD64 via DoP requires a PCM sample rate of 176.4 kHz.

DSD128 via DoP requires a PCM sample rate of 352.8 kHz.

DSD256 via DoP requires a PCM sample rate of 705.6 kHz.

With most DACs out there, this would be the limit of DoP right now. For DSD512 via DoP the PCM sample rate would have to be doubled again, 1411.2 kHz.
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Re: Automatically play file attribute.
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2022, 08:26:45 am »

Thanks for your reply Awesome Donkey

That worked. All music files are now playing in native format. I am usually fairly adept at audio and do need to read through the links you provided.
Nice software.
Thank you
Rick

FYI. I am running on Windows 10 on desktop and Windows 11 on laptop. I did have to install XMOS drivers.

I also use a Focusrite 4i4 to record tape and vinyl to digital (at max 24/192 which is fine). It appears that having the Focusrite and the DAC, both utilizing USB, I get feedback noise. I have to unplug one or the other when using. A minor inconvenience.
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