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lepa:
In standard view I think this is how it works. So if you set grouping then there is grouping and MC doesn't auto populate files
cochinada:
--- Quote from: lepa on March 03, 2023, 06:49:39 am ---In standard view I think this is how it works. So if you set grouping then there is grouping and MC doesn't auto populate files
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I see... well I actually don't see it. This program is incredibly complex as it has so many features and it gets incredibly frustrating when you are not used to it and lack the basics.
I don't know if you are talking about Grouping Functions as described on the Wiki or something else.
BTW, the idea of the Wiki is great but generally it lacks real examples of how things work, without which is like building castles in the air unless you are a developer or a real expert.
Take for instance the matter of tagging Classical Music. I know it's a vast and non consensual subject but I must have read to the north of 10 threads already and have still didn't see a concrete example of how to build a view that achieves one simple goal, common to many. At best, just theory and nothing more.
I'm talking about showing Composer -> Albums, showing all the tracks, including for other composers when it's a multi composer Album. Some say it can't be done and others say it can be, provided that one uses 'grouping" but again without showing how, which makes it totally useless.
IMO it would be of great value to have some Tutorials on the Wiki, instead of links to endless discussions where ultimately there is nothing of substance except exchanging ideas that someone without experience will never be able to implement.
The case above is one good example but I can think of many more.
lepa:
--- Quote from: cochinada on March 03, 2023, 09:44:30 am ---I see... well I actually don't see it. This program is incredibly complex as it has so many features and it gets incredibly frustrating when you are not used to it and lack the basics.
I don't know if you are talking about Grouping Functions as described on the Wiki or something else.
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Well, in your screenshot where you are trying to do grouping it says "Expression to group by:"
BTW I'm just a user not an employee of JRiver who just spend my own free time to create second test view in order to confirm if what you are trying to do is possible in MC or not. To my knowledge it is not. Like you said customization comes with a price. It takes time to learn.
Should JRiver offer some default views e.g. for classical. I don't know. Probably. I think they once tried but there was no consensus within users how to do it or how to tag files I guess or something.
cochinada:
--- Quote from: lepa on March 03, 2023, 11:35:33 am --- Well, in your screenshot where you are trying to do grouping it says "Expression to group by:"
BTW I'm just a user not an employee of JRiver who just spend my own free time to create second test view in order to confirm if what you are trying to do is possible in MC or not. To my knowledge it is not. Like you said customization comes with a price. It takes time to learn.
Should JRiver offer some default views e.g. for classical. I don't know. Probably. I think they once tried but there was no consensus within users how to do it or how to tag files I guess or something.
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Don't misinterpret me please. I'm very thankful for your answer and time. My rant was not meant to you nor anyone especial but it is just that is very frustrating when one does read a lot and still can't figure how to do what he wants.
JimH:
--- Quote from: lepa on March 03, 2023, 11:35:33 am ---Should JRiver offer some default views e.g. for classical. I don't know. Probably. I think they once tried but there was no consensus within users how to do it or how to tag files I guess or something.
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It's been discussed here, but there is little agreement on classical music. Many different tagging systems and expectations.
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