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jmone:
Thanks - figured it all out we remuxed it back to the real 30fps. It is a very good transfer (once you get it out of 59.94i) and plays great in JRVR now. Not my cup of tea, but the quality of this 70mm 30fps transfer is top notch. Shows what could be done even "back in the day".
Movieman:
--- Quote from: Hendrik on May 23, 2023, 06:19:27 am ---I'm adding black bar and aspect ratio options to JRVR currently, and I wanted to get some feedback if this covers everything sensible for usual setups.
Basically this is what I'm thinking right now, on a per-output basis in JRVR.
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Thank you, thank you thank you etc. etc. etc.
Please make sure that all A.R presets are customizable, both in size (vertical & horizontal) and in position. Please provide at least 10 customizable presets.
Please take into account that 1.77:, 1.85:1 and 2.40:1 are not the only offered ARs.
I personally have commercially released media in the following ARs:
1.77:1
1.85:1
2.00:1
2.20:1
2.35:1
2.40:1
2.55:1
2.76:1
2.85:1
Finally a compelling reason to make JRiver my preferred player.
Been playing with MPV recently, setting up custom AR's:
Shift+F1 set video-scale-x .7; set video-scale-y 1.0 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 1.77:1
Shift+F2 set video-scale-x .73; set video-scale-y 1.031 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 1.85:1
Shift+F3 set video-scale-x .79; set video-scale-y 1.13 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 2.00:1
Shift+F4 set video-scale-x .86; set video-scale-y 1.24 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 2.20:1
Shift+F5 set video-scale-x .92; set video-scale-y 1.35 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 2.40:1
Shift+F6 set video-scale-x .96; set video-scale-y 1.42 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 2.55:1
Shift+F7 set video-scale-x 1.08; set video-scale-y 1.54 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 2.76:1
Shift+F8 set video-scale-x 1.15; set video-scale-y 1.68 #menu: Aspect Ratio > 2.85:1
Please note that the correction for the 1.5x anamorphic lens is already factored into the scale ratios.
JRiver 31 is looking better and better. ;D Time to upgrade (again)
Vern
murray:
--- Quote from: Movieman on June 14, 2023, 05:51:20 pm ---Oklahoma is an oddity, as it was originally shot at 30 FPS. The BD is 59.94 FPS interlaced (or more properly PsF or progressive sequential frame). There is NO telecine applied to this title, as each frame on the BD alternates fields to recreate the 29.97 FPS original frame.
I have had no trouble playing this title on Zoom Player, I'll give it a run tonight on JRiver 31 beta (as soon as I download it).
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I dont know why Oklahoma drops lots frames on JRVR??
Ive had the BD for many years and it never dropped frames and still doesnt when I play it on madvr, plus Im using the 3080 video card.
Nathan did fix the issue for me but we really shouldnt have to make these changes to a 59.97 fps interlaced film.
Movieman:
--- Quote from: murray on June 14, 2023, 07:20:07 pm ---I dont know why Oklahoma drops lots frames on JRVR??
Ive had the BD for many years and it never dropped frames and still doesnt when I play it on madvr, plus Im using the 3080 video card.
Nathan did fix the issue for me but we really shouldnt have to make these changes to a 59.97 fps interlaced film.
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The issue is that Blu Ray doesn't include progressive 30FPS as a supported frame rate in their standards.
So the only way to encode it on blu ray is 60 fps frame packed as discussed above. This looks the same as 30 fps interlaced to the authoring software. Yes, it's a kluge, but you can blame the people that originally created the blu ray standards.
And yes, it stutters on MC 30, but plays fine on 31, Zoom Player and MPV.
murray:
--- Quote from: Movieman on June 14, 2023, 09:47:02 pm ---The issue is that Blu Ray doesn't include progressive 30FPS as a supported frame rate in their standards.
So the only way to encode it on blu ray is 60 fps frame packed as discussed above. This looks the same as 30 fps interlaced to the authoring software. Yes, it's a kluge, but you can blame the people that originally created the blu ray standards.
And yes, it stutters on MC 30, but plays fine on 31, Zoom Player and MPV.
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My rip doesnt play fine on MC31, I dont know why yours would?
I also dont know why it plays fine on madvr ever since the print was released but not on my version of MC31 JRVR.
One of those oddities I suppose....
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