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Awesome Donkey:
Those "debloat" tools basically break your Windows install, and over the years I've encountered and fixed multiple PCs that broke due to people blindly using those debloat and tweak utilities. Especially PowerShell scripts that forcefully remove apps like the Store and Cortana.

IMO, it's not worth it. You can disable some of the telemetry in Windows' settings app, but not all. And to be fair, some Linux distros also "phone home" with telemetry, as does Apple with macOS, iOS, etc. It's kinda hard to escape having your data gathered when everyone is basically doing it to some degree. The battle for online privacy and personal data protection was lost a long time ago, sadly.

eve:

--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on April 23, 2023, 08:35:25 am ---Those "debloat" tools basically break your Windows install, and over the years I've encountered and fixed multiple PCs that broke due to people blindly using those debloat and tweak utilities. Especially PowerShell scripts that forcefully remove apps like the Store and Cortana.

IMO, it's not worth it. You can disable some of the telemetry in Windows' settings app, but not all. And to be fair, some Linux distros also "phone home" with telemetry, as does Apple with macOS, iOS, etc. It's kinda hard to escape having your data gathered when everyone is basically doing it to some degree. The battle for online privacy and personal data protection was lost a long time ago, sadly.

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I wouldn't blame the debloat tools. If you choose to remove store, that's on you lmao. The decent powershell scripts can be a starting point to know which changes to make.

A huge amount of telemetry can be disabled with group policy edits alone. The "Settings" app does very little in actuality.

David Sydney:
The debloaters I mentioned are open source on Github allowing scrutiny, they do not remove the Windows Store, and have been down loaded over 50k times. It's not just about privacy. On my previous system on reboot and sitting idle without starting anything, I got sick of the PC clocking up to 15-20% CPU and over 50% HDD access on a 'cleaned system'. So I am forced to upgrade hardware just to keep MS fed with my data - no thank you. Now on reboot of a VM with GPU passed through, I am at 0-1%CPU, 0%HDD, 2GB Mem, Process count of 75 with everything loaded; and the Linux host running it boots using 800MB and one core. So I have an extra computer running for the same price as all the removed Windows background guff.

Each to their own of course. Depends on whether this is related to Proton32060 motivation to keep Win7 or not. But felt it important to note that Win7 has unfortunately also been retrofitted with all the telemetry and bloat via Windows updates https://www.computerworld.com/article/3408496/new-windows-7-security-only-update-installs-telemetrysnooping-uh-feature.html.

Vocalpoint:

--- Quote from: proton32060 on April 21, 2023, 11:34:51 am ---My Company has extended support for Windows 7 and I am continuing to get Security Updates since I have my Company Win 7 software loaded on my PC as well.
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Not exactly sure what you are getting at with "continuing to get Security Updates" as the Windows 7 ESU program (year 3 of 3) officially ended on Jan 10, 2023.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-US/lifecycle/faq/extended-security-updates (see attachment)

That was the last Win 7 security patch cycle - ever - for those on the 3 year ESU program. I know this because my company was on it too - until Jan 10, 2023

Thus - Win 7 has been officially deprecated and end of life for almost 4 months now.

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