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blgentry:

--- Quote from: Hendrik on June 07, 2023, 09:18:35 am ---https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/1437-firefly/episode_groups

All the information you talk about is in there. Accessible from the main series page in the menu under Episode Groups.

I'll see about making sure DVD episode groups are hooked up in MC when I'm back from vacation.

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Thanks for the link.  I can't find any thing that says "episode groups" on the listing for Firefly.  BUT.... if you hover over where it says "Original Air Date", it pops up a menu with the DVD and "Intended Order" selections.  I'll have to list them both and compare to find out what the difference is between the two.

I'd also like to thank you for volunteering to hook up the other orders into MC.  That will make it very useful again.

I hope you enjoy your vacation.

Brian.

Hendrik:
Its here in the menu:

Buldarged:

--- Quote from: blgentry on June 07, 2023, 08:50:00 am ---I do understand that Firefly is an exception.  For many other series, TMDB probably has the correct information.  In this case, it does not.

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Its actually not. I recently had to deal with the series Money Heist, for which three different orders and numbers of episodes exist.

But the place where this is really common are animes. There are typically multiple orders, including:
- An ever increasing absolute order (from episode 0001 to 9999)
- Grouped by story arcs
- Grouped by cours (release cycle, typical close to 13 or 26 episodes)
- Grouped by seasons (for DVD/Bluray)

This is why I'm glad to see that at least DVD order might see a comeback.

Hendrik:
I was thinking about letting you specifically pick an episode group to pick from, but for automated or bulk lookups thats a bit complicated, as we dont know what might exist beforehand, etc. Maybe it can store the ID of the group used somewhere if you did it manually once, for future automated and bulk lookups.

Buldarged:
That's definitely a good idea. I think a relational per series tag, which is by default empty would do the trick. Bulk lookups use the default order if the tag is empty. Lookup for a single episode lets you select the episode group and sets the aforementioned tag for the whole series, after which a bulk lookup would use that information automatically.

A bit off topic, but related: Currently, if I select an episode cover that is not the first in the TMDB lookup, this information does not get saved in the tags, which causes problems.
My use-case is the following:
- I do a bulk lookup for a series
- I notice that a single episode has 4:3 cover art instead of 16:9.
- I do a single lookup for that episode and choose a 16:9 image, if one is available.
- Once a year or so, I make a bulk lookup for the whole library, to get newer and better descriptions and images.
- Manually selected 16:9 cover art gets overridden with 4:3.

I know that saving the corresponding image index is not a valid strategy, since their order on TMDB changes based on votes. Maybe a better idea would be to have a boolean "Protect Image" tag, that can be used universally. Per default the tag is empty, which implies false. If the user selects non-default cover art during TMDB lookup, manually selects the image via the right click menu --> Cover Art --> Paste from Clipboard, or by using a screen capture, then this tag gets set to true. If that is the case, bulk and automatic actions that would delete or change the image (file) like the TMDB lookup should respect this setting and not update the corresponding images.

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