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jonztunez:
I decided to buy the android version of JRiver for my Xiaomi 10 because Gizmo consistently tends to crash after around 20 minutes.
Anyway, what I'm finding is that the sound of JRiver android is what I would call very speccy (technical term) - intermittently - to the point of almost being unlistenable when at its worst. It's ok some of the time. The app doesn't crash, however.
Has anyone else experienced this, and, maybe got a solution?
It's pretty frustrating and mystifying - the sound using Gizmo is fine/ excellent, but for the JRiver app, not. Not quite understanding why they shouldn't be the same on the same platform.
I've got JRiver V31.0.21 installed btw. The phone handles 24bit HD audio.

JimH:
If you're playing from a server, make sure the audio isn't being converted to MP3.

jonztunez:
Thanks Jim
I checked that out - and switched audio conversion to no conversion.
Anyway - went out and about to test - and still getting the same intermittent problem with the sound quality.

However - just discovered - I have just set up my home hifi to port the music in through my phone (so phone connected with JRiver android to JRiver Media server MC 31 on my server via wifi, and then with a bluetooth connection to the hifi) and, it sounds perfect.

The problem then seems to be only occurring when the phone is using a mobile rather than wifi connection.
And, as originally mentioned - Gizmo doesn't suffer from the sound issue in any circumstances.
Is that any help?

jonztunez:
Spoke too soon regards mobile vs wifi connection - getting the intermittent audio degradation regardless of connection.

So I think the main issue is why there is a difference between JRiver for android and Gizmo?

Do they use different audio processing paths, either at server end or local client (on my phone)?

Awesome Donkey:
Gizmo is a remote and requires MC to be running on another machine as a server, JRiver for Android is actually the full-fledged JRiver app ported to Android and doesn't rely on MC running on another machine, it can act as a remote (but works great as a standalone player). I believe Gizmo (since it's older) uses either the Android system player or the original ExoPlayer as the backend. I wouldn't be surprised if JRiver for Android uses ExoPlayer2 instead. One of JRiver's devs would have to comment on that as I don't believe there should be a difference, unless conversion is happening.

While JRiver for Android will work fine as a remote, it's not its primary function, it works best as a standalone media player for local media (e.g. on a Nvidia Shield TV it works nicely). Alternately you might have better luck with Panel in a web browser (which JRiver for Android uses as its user interface) or JRemote2 on Android, which are dedicated remotes.

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