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Scheduler: Record Stream URL fails mid-stream
cFortC:
Actually, I have used TeamViewer in the past, attempting to work around RDC's blockage of normal audio playback when the session drops.
I just didn't like the intrusive character of the TeamViewer software and the feeling that they were monitoring my connections.
However, since then I have converted completely to ASIO audio interfaces, and also installed a more reliable Wi-Fi grid at my location.
Because it's built into Windows and otherwise works very well, I standardized on RDC.
Since my previous post, I have been using an old laptop to maintain an active RDC session after I've retired to bed. Since I determined that active playback of the recorded stream has no impact on the issue, I can shut off my DAC and power amp. This scheme has worked well, with no failures to complete a recording over at least two weeks.
If the JRiver developers have no further insight into the cause of the apparent RDC issue impacting Scheduler: Record Stream, then I am left with workarounds like the spare laptop or reverting to TeamViewer. Inconvenient, but doable.
cFortC:
I tried the latest TeamViewer to ensure that it was still a valid workaround to this Record stream problem.
Well, not in my case. My main laptop has a 4K screen with very high DPI. When I run TeamViewer against the JRiver PC, no combination of the scaling and screen resolutions offered by TeamViewer yield a usable interface. The icons, text, etc. are either microscopic or you're looking at a desktop that needs to be scrolled within the TeamViewer window.
However, while I had TeamViewer installed, I did verify that a 2-hour Record stream session ran to completion.
terrym@tassie:
Try NoMachine, I use it for my headless Windows/Linux servers and it works well, of course YMMV. Ditched Teamviewer because of their continuous accusations that I was 'using the software for commercial purposes' despite the fact that all my connections were on a local lan to 4 systems!
cFortC:
Thanks for this suggestion about NoMachine.
I gave it a shot, but a few rough edges tend to squash it for my use. A blocker was NoMachines' use of the upper right hand corner to access its settings window. My JRiver has taken to opening a full screen options window whenever I select Playback Options. I opened this to check the audio devices under NoMachines. Then it was impossible to close the Playback Settings window - I could only reach the NoMachines settings window.
Other potential issues were NoMachines' preference to send audio through to the display client. I unchecked that box but I never reached the point where I could test ASIO audio on the server (see first issue). I'm also not impressed by that fake mouse sprite (which the real mouse sprite drags around on the screen) - TeamViewer has that same thing (with the kicker that the fake mouse sprite can easily become disconnected from the real one).
I've got to hand it to Microsoft Remote Desktop: it really is nicely integrated into the WIndows GUI experience. If it didn't break audio streaming (or JRiver Record Stream) on the host, it would be perfect.
cFortC:
Well, yesterday the JRiver Record Stream failed, apparently when I momentarily minimized the Remote Desktop window on the laptop (in order to check a local setting on the laptop). The playback went on normally so I didn't notice the record stream failure until I checked the audio file later.
So I've updated my cautionary on Microsoft Remote Desktop Control: the session must not only remain active but also open on the desktop of the controlling PC. Otherwise, some sort of devilish glitch could halt non-ASIO audio playback or cause an ongoing JRiver record stream to stop recording.
At this point I started rethinking using Remote Desktop at all. How about a small keyboard and portable display attached to the music service micro-PC?
Looking into that, I concluded: maybe later. For the time being, I will just dedicate my old laptop (that one I was running RDC on) to BECOME the music server. It eliminates RDC and keyboard/display are built into the laptop.
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