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Bob Sorel:
I will vote for a box of rocks before I vote for Trump. I am in 100% complete agreement with Jim, but will add that IF Biden decides to step down, my favorite candidate is Gavin Newsom (right now anyway), as he has the youth, experience, and the feistiness that I believe Democrats really need right now, and he doesn't take any sh!t from anybody. At this point in time, nice guys finish last.
--- Quote ---As for your Option 2 Jim, the 12th Amendment reads that, "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice president of the United States." So Obama is certainly ineligible. The fact that he cannot run and Trump can...a bit of a head scratcher.
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Trump is "constitutionally ineligible" by way of his participation in an insurrection, yet SCOTUS is letting him run anyway. This is where the biggest danger is right now, as the current SCOTUS is going out of its way to protect Trump, and every move by Democrats will be shut down by it.
--- Quote ---The Supreme Court is now political, mainly due to his work and McConnell's.
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McConnell is a huge snake in the grass, but going forward the people to watch out for the most are Steve Bannon and Steven Miller, as well as the rest of the people behind Project 2025.
My feelings about MAGA are best reflected with this joke I heard recently:
"How many MAGA supporters does it take to change a lightbulb?"
"None....Trump just tells them that he already fixed it and then the supporters cheer him in the dark."
zybex:
I would also vote for Gavin Newsom.
I'll route my vote via Venezuela.
JimH:
This seems headed toward an open convention, something not seen since around 1960. Nominees, speeches, rounds and rounds of delegates voting.
Democracy.
fitbrit:
As a non-American, I am heartened to see your reactions to Trump. Sad that every election is even more crucial to saving democracy as we know it than the previous one. Trump must be kept out. Otherwise Putin wins, and not just in Amercia, but in Europe and many other places too. I am afraid.
A big chunk of the population lacks critical thinking skills, mostly because it is not taught. Meanwhile media, especially social media, seduces them and makes them feel special, edgy and "in the know" as it feeds them lies. The algorithms are flinging everything to see what sticks. If you're a MAGA supporter, you can say whatever you want. If you don't like Trump, you'll see "both sides are equally bad" plastering your news feeds. Yet, we all know a non-voter may as well be a Trump voter in this election. He needs to be beaten in November.
And that raises the question - why tf is he not in jail? How corrupt is the system that someone hoarding national secrets, and possibly selling them, is not dealt with swiftly and decisively?
Thank you to posters so far for somewhat restoring my faith in your country and its electorate. It's bleak looking in from outside - I sympathise how it must be inside.
Bob Sorel:
--- Quote from: fitbrit on July 11, 2024, 07:45:47 pm ---As a non-American, I am heartened to see your reactions to Trump. Sad that every election is even more crucial to saving democracy as we know it than the previous one. Trump must be kept out. Otherwise Putin wins, and not just in Amercia, but in Europe and many other places too. I am afraid.
A big chunk of the population lacks critical thinking skills, mostly because it is not taught. Meanwhile media, especially social media, seduces them and makes them feel special, edgy and "in the know" as it feeds them lies. The algorithms are flinging everything to see what sticks. If you're a MAGA supporter, you can say whatever you want. If you don't like Trump, you'll see "both sides are equally bad" plastering your news feeds. Yet, we all know a non-voter may as well be a Trump voter in this election. He needs to be beaten in November.
And that raises the question - why tf is he not in jail? How corrupt is the system that someone hoarding national secrets, and possibly selling them, is not dealt with swiftly and decisively?
Thank you to posters so far for somewhat restoring my faith in your country and its electorate. It's bleak looking in from outside - I sympathise how it must be inside.
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George Carlin expressed the problem clearly when he said:
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
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