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Playing Now PopUp Skins (x4)
marko:
--- Quote from: EnglishTiger on September 27, 2024, 07:12:31 am ---marko - since fixing the problem with Fontsize may take a while to fix what I would like to suggest is for you to concentrate on getting your popup skins performing the way you would prefer them to and when you are happy with them send then to me and I'll try them out on the Mac and report successes or any problems back to you. That way we can both apply the necessary pressure needed to get the PlayingNow Popups looking and behaving the same way on both platforms.
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I've spent hours on these four skins this morning. I found so many silly mistakes in all of them. Think I have them all sorted out now...
Logo
Notify
Play
Top Toolbar
I'll send you d'load links. Thinking that probably the best way forward atm is going to be to offer platform specific versions of these...
EnglishTiger:
Logo
I couldn't spot any differences when using it on the Win PC and the Mac PC and I ain't going to borrow one of NASA's telescope things to find if there is any actual difference
Play
Until cncb can sort out the "FontSize" problem this one can only be used on the Win Platform see Image 1
Notify
You get 9 out of 10 for this one - there is a slight alignment problem
The "Pause" buttons has "y-248" the play button has "y-230"
Other than that play spot the difference with Image 2
Top Toolbar
You get 9 out of 10 for this one - it also suffers from the "FontSize" problem - which is easily solved by removing the "Fontsize" instruction and adding a Tooltip to the "Details" line
In Image 3 the top one is for the Win Pc, the 2nd is for the Mac PC and the 3rd one is what you get on the Mac if the "Fontsize" instructions are removed
One of these days I'll find out how to get the images into the body of a posting and not appended at the bottom
P.S. Any slight differences in the mac image sizes is mainly down to me having to crop the popup images out of the Mac screenies - PrtScn on the Mac is no where near as sophisticated as the 1 in Win11.
marko:
Thanks ET. That's all pretty cool, and nowhere near as bad as I expected. I'll try removing the fontsize here too. If I remove the fontsize from instructions from "Play", will it still be messed up on the Mac?
Is your Windows snip of "Top Toolbar" also without the fontsize instruction? It looks to me like the line needs to move up a pixel or two to center it, but then, it's going to be too high on the Mac, right? Currently the centering on the Mac snip looks to be pretty much spot on.
In Notify, the line of function icons below the player control buttons look really fuzzy on the Mac, with and odd purple-ish border around them. Is that just a screenshot and crop thing or is that how they are actually drawn on the Mac?
I had no choice but to use custom icons for minimise and maximise as the "PLAYERBAR" ones were too varied between skins. "Noire" for example, didn't even draw them, but if you could find them with the mouse, the "over" images would appear. Apart from that line, everything else in the skin is dynamic, driven by the current standard view skin. When it works, it's really rather good. My "Seamless" skin, and Dragyn's "Opus MC (Blue)" work really well with Notify.
I have two Shania albums here, C'mon Over and Up. I also have that Bryan Adams album, and that Sharleen Spiteri album. Do you have any of her albums with the band Texas? "Southside" and "White On Blonde" are, imo, both excellent albums. I saw Texas live at Edinburgh Castle on New Year's Eve many many years ago... I don't know if I was just expecting too much, but it turned out to be, not quite the worst (that honour goes to Madonna at Murrayfield Stadium, by a country mile) but the gig was a real let down for me. Still, their albums are great fun and I play them regularly.
-marko
EnglishTiger:
marko -
The Win Snip of the "Top Toolbar" is from the original version
I'm not sure what the fuzziness in the Mac "Notify" "PLAYERBAR" Buttons image is down to.
At present the Win PC is attached to a Samsung CF27 (27") curved monitor and the Mac PC is attached to the 24" version of the same monitor. Tomorrow I'll switch the monitors over which hopefully will enable me to find out what may be causing the fuzziness around those buttons. My guess is it's either the PrtScn on the Mac or a combination of the routine the popup skinning engine uses to resize the images and the Mac's unpredictable allergy to lines that are 1 pixel wide or high.
In the Std View Skin those "PLAYERBAR" buttons are 48x36 in the popup I am working on if I set the the size to anything lower that 36x24 the button edge vanished on the edge on the Mac; which shows how weird the mac can be at times because that 1 pixel button edge is set 1 transparent pixel in from the edge on all 4 sides.
The Mac is a platform that once had a reputation for being the best for handling graphics but since Apple introduced Retina Graphics it has developed some real odd habits.
marko:
Final Update here...
mjp files are created and confirmed to be working correctly (here, on Windows 10, 32 bit, at least).
Without the font size instructions the "Play" skin is a hopeless fail on Windows, so as reported by ET above, this one is going to have to be written off for the Mac. Maybe it works on Linux?
Final tweaks made to "Notify", as I noticed that there wasn't enough room for the "clear rating" button on the ET Blue skin, and also, without control over font size, the details line can get truncated once the font gets over a certain size, so the info there is now also shown via tooltip.
I will create a new thread for each of the skins. Download will be by way of mjp files. This way, MC will install the skin for the user, and for any future tweaks, I'll just update the files on the server and a double click on the mjp file will grab the update.
Next up for me...
Create a new version of "Play" that should work on a Mac
Test the new Volume slider content type
Check out a couple of popup related things shared with me recently
Once I've created the new skin threads, I'll link them in the first post here, and lock this thread.
Thank you to cncb for the outstanding work on this feature, and to ET for the invaluable Mac and xml error testing.
-marko
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