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slavad

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Possibilty to distinguish albums with same name
« on: February 06, 2025, 03:41:07 am »

I have several copies of the same album. Is a possiblity to distinguish them when I am trying to play album for some track.Now all versions of album is added to play.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2025, 07:42:02 am »

I have several copies of the same album. Is a possiblity to distinguish them when I am trying to play album for some track.Now all versions of album is added to play.

Yes - All you need to do is add something relevant about that individual album inside round brackets () behind the album name
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2025, 08:41:24 am »

Which is something I've done for years in my library. Here's an example...



It's not the most elegant, but it works very well.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2025, 10:36:10 am »

I used to do what Awesome Donkey did with both the albums AND sometimes the song titles, e.g., "These eyes (remastered)"   It does work well, but one disadvantage is that a simple sort filter will not give you a listing of all the versions of "These eyes" (or the listing of all the albums with the main title).  Easily solvable by using the wizard and sorting filtering using the "contains"   option.  But just wanted to point that out.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2025, 11:17:12 am »

Yeah, adding that kind of thing to song titles can get messy. I only add extra stuff to song titles if they're live, remixes, edits, demos, rehearsals, etc.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2025, 11:44:14 am »

For song title I think it is better to use another field like [version]=12" remix and then when necessary combine it with when displaying it. Then you can find every version of that song easily. For albums it is different as MCs album logic depents on album name so you cannot use version field for album without consequenses
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2025, 09:12:27 am »

I have tested lepa's solution for song names (use a separate field and concatenate).  It seems to work very well.  I am switching over to that approach so the song title will now be just the title, but I can display the secondary artist.  Nice.  Thanks.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2025, 01:49:11 pm »

Is any possibilty to automate this? I have really big library.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2025, 02:44:51 pm »

Is there any significance to the round brackets ()?
Could I just use a - ?
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2025, 03:30:23 pm »

You can use whatever separator you want. I use [] as round brackets are more probable to be part of the real album name and in some cases i want to display album names without release info so it is a little more failsafe to trim by removing everything inside [] than ().

Revolver [Red Wax Mono]
Revolver [UK]
Revolver [MFSL]
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2025, 03:47:07 pm »

I have tested lepa's solution for song names (use a separate field and concatenate).  It seems to work very well.  I am switching over to that approach so the song title will now be just the title, but I can display the secondary artist.

Hello jack,
I would like to do this the same as you do.
Tell me how to, please.
Thanks,
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2025, 04:55:39 pm »

To answer the question as to the steps I am taking to move a secondary artist from the song name to a new field, here are the steps (others may have better approaches)

0. Use the search wizard to identify all the appropriate songs.  In my case, I searched for names that contained "([space]W([space]"
1. The file starting with "Secondary" shows the tagging edit window with the song name including the secondary artist
2. I then cut and paste the secondary artist to an unused field.  In this case, I used "Band".  See the attached file starting with "Tagging"
3. The display for playing has been modified to show the "name" followed by "band" (with a space in between).  See that attached file starting with "Display"
4. When I am done (985 names need to be changed), I will identify all the files with a "band" field that is occupied and rename the files to match the new song names.

I suspect 1 & 2 can be mostly automated use the MC expression language but that is beyond my knowledge.  I have not shown how to add the "band" to the tag display (use "customize" or how to bring up the edit for the display (right click on an appropriate area of the display).  I hope this is helpful.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2025, 05:10:06 pm »

Thanks for a prompt and clear description,
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2025, 10:19:05 pm »

Jack - You need to check Wikipedia & Discogs because the Artists on Almost Paradise are Mike Reno and Ann Wilson not Loverboy with Ann Wilson.
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2025, 11:26:13 pm »

You can also add a custom tag [Version] and create an album view where [Album] is an expression , mine is  [Date] - [Album] [Version] (no hyphen between album and version for neatness)

In the view I use multiline to make the version appear on the second line

The good bit is in JRemote if there I only one version you go straight to it , if there are several you get another "page" to show the versions to select from
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Re: Possibilty ti distinguish albums with same name.
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2025, 04:12:34 am »

For song title I think it is better to use another field like [version]=12" remix and then when necessary combine it with when displaying it.
Hello lepa,
I like this idea.
For example to have a suffix of demo, or acoustic after the song name.
I understand [version] is a custom field.
Tell me how to combine / concatenate after the name field, please.
Thanks,
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Re: Possibilty to distinguish albums with same name
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2025, 07:23:31 am »

To make it simple to use in diffrent places you can create two fields eg: "Version" and "Name (version)"

Version is just string field where you put your version stuff eg "Live"

[Name (version)] would be calculated field which combines fields [Name] and [Version]
Calculate rule being e.g.
Code: [Select]
[Name]If([Version,0],/ /[[Version]/],)which will give [Name (version)] then content like: "A Hard Days Night [Live]"
or if there is no version data then just "A Hard Days Night"

You can then use [Name] or [Name (version)] fields easily.
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Re: Possibilty to distinguish albums with same name
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2025, 09:07:43 am »

works beautifully thank you,
it gives me square brackets around the version, I would prefer nothing, please
Tried playing with removing [ ] from the code, but failed.
Kindly help me.
Thanks,
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Re: Possibilty to distinguish albums with same name
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2025, 09:35:11 am »

To just add space between fields if there was version info:
Code: [Select]
[Name]If([Version,0],/ [Version],)
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Re: Possibilty to distinguish albums with same name
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2025, 09:39:45 am »

super duper 🏆
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Re: Possibilty to distinguish albums with same name
« Reply #20 on: Today at 09:27:30 am »

Thanks to lepa, my display has improved.  In case it helps anyone I put the secondary artists in the field "band" and used the following coding with the result shown (both with and without a secondary artist - why you need the if statement).  Thank you!
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