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How does the Cover Art work ?
« on: December 20, 2002, 02:59:00 pm »

Hi all,

I've just finished ripping a number of songs.  During the rip I've enable MC 9 to download the cover art from the internet.

I should explain that I'm 100% into dance music (House/Techno/Trance etc.)

However, MC 9 has downloaded some really weird cover art for my Albums.  It also only managed to find 127 covers for my 547 Albums (is this normal ?).

As mentioned - I am only into Dance Music - but some of the cover art it has downloaded is nothing to do with dance music.

Some examples are (in no particular order  ::) )

- Melissa Etheridge
- Black Uhuru
- The Duke Ellington Orchestra
- Little Richard (!)
- Aerosmith
- Al Stewart
- John Hartford (a tribute to fiddle music !)
- Swirlies (Flute Music !)
- Eric Clapton
- The history of british rock
- Bruce Springsteen
- And many more ......

So how does this 'download cover art' work ?  Is it normal to only have a quarter of your CD's actually download cover art, and of those to find approx. 20% are totally wrong ?

Just thought I would ask in case I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2002, 03:37:06 pm »

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However, MC 9 has downloaded some really weird cover art for my Albums.


It is not 100% acurate thats for sure.
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2002, 02:14:02 pm »

It is not 100% acurate thats for sure.

Hey hey you are kind.
It is not even 10% acurate.

retrospek
They would like very much to improve it at JRiver ,but things are not that easy  and clearconcerning licence.
Just do not use it.
Have a look at AMG ,you may get a much better result
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2002, 02:56:30 pm »

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It is not even 10% acurate.

In my testing it works about 40% of the time correctly thats counting Miss matches and Albums Not found
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2002, 11:54:00 am »

The truth is that I'm having much better luck with MC9 in this regard than I did with MJ8--it wouldn't download cover art at all. I figured out a long time ago that MJ/MC seems to get all its cover art from one source (I'm sure a lot of you know who I mean) and if that source doesn't have your cover art, you're not getting it. I'm stumped as to what happens when you get completely wrong art--it's happened to me a few times but not like what retrospek is going thru. I recommend you think of somebody who posts decent-sized examples of cover art--for instance, to show what they're selling?--and look it up there, then copy it and paste into your cover art window. It can really be a hunt if your artist has a big catalog, but the art is out there about 80% of the time, I'd guess.
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2003, 03:03:47 pm »

Where is this feature located?  Can't seem to find it in the help files... ?
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2003, 03:15:04 pm »

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Where is this feature located?  Can't seem to find it in the help files


depends on what version your using
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2003, 03:29:46 pm »

select the files, then right click, go to tools, then to get cover art.  Only a guess, but at least I think your on version 9, since your in that group.

KingSparta must not be feeling well, as before most of his replies were helpful..  hope he gets better soon.
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2003, 05:07:16 am »

>> KingSparta must not be feeling well
I'm fine, I could use a Hug however

>> Only a guess, but at least I think your on version
>> 9, since your in that group.
that is not a guarantee he could be using Version 5, 6, 7, 8, 0r 9
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2003, 05:26:38 am »

[url][/http://home.austin.rr.com/hugmusic/mp3index.html
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2003, 06:45:49 am »

version 9
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2003, 07:20:07 am »

What The Old Cop Said is ok for MJ9

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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2003, 05:55:10 pm »

I can't seem to get the cover art to work very well. I do  download a lot of coverart to my hard drive using other sources. I am having trouble adding " jpg images" or "coverart" from my hard drive to mp3 files within Media Center 9.0.
Help!!!!
PS - Already checked the MJ8 help box as the MC9 help box is not there and found no help?
::) ::)
Dan

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Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.88 -- D:\Dan's\Media Center9\

Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Intel Celeron 500 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 195 MB, Free - 47 MB
Resource Info: System - 48 %, GDI - 67 %, User - 48 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600
wnaspi32.dll: 2, 0, 0, 0 , ASPI for WIN32 DLL, Copyright © Adaptec 1995 / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping /   Drive Y:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Drive Z:   Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer   CD Type:Auto   Read speed:Max
 Digital playback: Yes /  Use YADB: Yes /  Get cover art: No /  Calc replay gain: No /  Copy volume: 32767
 Eject after ripping: Yes /  Play sound after ripping: No  

Burning /  Drive Y: YAMAHA CRW2100E   Addr: 0:1:0  Speed:4  MaxSpeed:16  Lib:2  GHS:1  Use MJ Engine:No
 Test mode: No /  Eject after writing: Yes /  Direct decoding: Yes /  Two second gap: No /  Write CD-Text: No
 Use playback settings: No /  Normalization: 90 %
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2003, 01:38:19 am »

Select All Files, Right Click, Tools, Get Coverart, Select Drop Combo Box, Select Off Line (Local Coverart)
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2003, 06:39:57 am »

Thanks King
I tried what you said and selected Offline and tried both options of "tolerance" The box downloading comes up and just disappears after a few seconds. No Coverart or browser window to locate my image files!
Is there something wrong with a file or .ini setting? Anything else to check??
:'(  ?

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Select All Files, Right Click, Tools, Get Coverart, Select Drop Combo Box, Select Off Line (Local Coverart)
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2003, 06:48:02 am »

>> No Coverart or browser window to locate
>> my image files!
To Get "browser window" Or A Common Dialog Box You Need To Display The Image Box To The Left, Then Select The "Tools" Button.

Under The "Tools" Button There Is An "Add" Button

Push That To Do It Manualy
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2003, 07:24:06 am »

Thanks again King

Got it working now.

I didn't realize that there was so much more in the "properties ..." embedded box beyond "playlists" and "format". I found the "image" box and all is great now.
:)  :)

I also saw a response by JimH in the "partial instructions" Board on the same thing

Bye the way ... my kudos to all the team on a great product ... small things amiss but a team that is interactive and pushing the best player in the market.

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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2003, 09:10:53 am »

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>> No Coverart or browser window to locate
>> my image files!
To Get "browser window" Or A Common Dialog Box You Need To Display The Image Box To The Left, Then Select The "Tools" Button.

Under The "Tools" Button There Is An "Add" Button

Push That To Do It Manualy


I'm having the same problem with manually adding art. I can't make head or tail of your instructions (which says more about me than you). Please could you give it again in an 'idiots guide' version?
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2003, 03:52:57 am »

;D ;D

Hey,

Slept on it and re-read this thread.

Got it!

Thanks for everyones input!
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2003, 06:06:44 am »

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Have a look at AMG ,you may get a much better result


I'm shivering with anticipation: What is AMG? A cover search engine, or something?  8)
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2003, 07:13:59 am »

Mastiff,

AMG is a large Database of Artists, check out
www . allmusic . com  this is the URL
List albums / has cover art & much more.
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2003, 12:24:12 pm »

Finally figured out manually adding artwork and found this:

My Data/Cover Art directory is full of covers that were downloaded when ripping but they don't show up in MC.

When looking at tracks properties the Image path and file are correct and point to the right place but still no show.

I have tried adding the same image manually and it still doesn't show.

There doesn't seem to be a pattern. Some downloaded and all manually added images show. Why don't the rest?

Any clues anybody?
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2003, 12:31:01 pm »

What version are you using?? I seem to remember this being a prolem with one of the older builds.  I have no problems with the current build.  Are you selecting individual tracks or doyou have the whole album selected.  If you hav e the whole album selected it does not show the art, it just tells you where it is stored (i.e inside files).  However if you select a single track you should see the cover art...

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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2003, 10:41:29 pm »

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AMG is a large Database of Artists


Thanks! Found a few of the covers I'm missing without any problems! Cool!  8)
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Re: How does the Cover Art work ?
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2003, 11:31:22 pm »

mindtracing,
had the same problems with files in wma format, the cover art was there but just loaded randomly into MC. Don't have the problem with ape format!
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