Topic: Ripping speed rarely exceeds 1.5 x (Read 2475 times)

fdgsdfg · « **on:** January 01, 2003, 06:15:49 pm »

Any advice?

Media Jukebox PLUS 9.0.89 -- C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center\

Microsoft Windows 98
Intel Pentium II 447 MHz MMX / Memory: Total - 392 MB, Free - 188 MB
Resource Info: System - 66 %, GDI - 82 %, User - 66 %

Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106 / ComCtl32.dll: 5.50.4916.400 / Shlwapi.dll: 6.00.2800.1106
Shell32.dll: 4.72.3812.600
wnaspi32.dll: 4.60 (1021) , ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, Copyright © 1989-1999 Adaptec, Inc. / Aspi32.sys: N/A

Ripping / Drive E: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Drive F: Copy mode:ModeBurstBigBuffer CD Type:Auto Read speed:Max
Digital playback: Yes / Use YADB: Yes / Get cover art: Yes / Calc replay gain: No / Copy volume: 32767
Eject after ripping: Yes / Play sound after ripping: Yes Soundfile: chord.wav

Burning / Drive E: SONY CD-RW CRX185E1 Addr: 1:0:0 Speed:32 MaxSpeed:32 Use MJ Engine:Yes
Test mode: No / Eject after writing: No / Direct decoding: Yes / Write CD-Text: Yes
Use playback settings: No / Normalization: None

RemyJ · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2003, 07:09:19 pm »

Is it the ripping or encoding that's slow? Try ripping to uncomressed wav to get your max rip speed, then try converting to whatever format you use to get your max encoding speed. Watch CPU utilization for both.

fdgsdfg · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2003, 02:59:07 pm »

Ripping w/o encoding sped up the process but only ~5.5x. Is this normal or does my computer just suck?

KingSparta · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2003, 03:08:38 pm »

>> or does my computer just suck?
It just sucks

fdgsdfg · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2003, 03:23:08 pm »

Can't say I'm surprised to hear that . . .

KingSparta · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2003, 03:52:19 pm »

hehe

well the Lame encoder is rather slow, with a 447mhz computer that does not help much.

you know you can't play many new games on that.

I have a 1.8ghz and it is so slow, and the crapy video board (on the mother board) does not help.

I have a game min 700mhz, but playing it with this intel video is just plain poor.

RemyJ · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2003, 04:20:20 pm »

Windows 98 isn't exactly a performance booster either

What's the CPU doing while you're ripping with no encoding? What kind of controller is the CD attached to? Is DMA turned on?

ZRocker · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2003, 05:04:28 am »

Also, try converting the ripped .WAV file to .MP3 and see what encoding speed you get on your PC. I'm betting you get around 2.9x or so...I have the same speed PII with a better Plextor CD burner with DMA enabled (better = faster audio ripping speed of 20X).

I just read that the Sony drive is terrible at audio ripping and your 5.5x comment shows that...plus, you may not have DMA enabled on you IDE controller for the drive (if not, you are sucking more CPU cycles too).

fdgsdfg · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2003, 06:34:34 am »

How would I enable DMA?

I'm not surprised to hear this SOny drive is slow -- it was about $50 3 months ago . . .

Fastyves · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2003, 07:02:19 am »

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How would I enable DMA?

Start > Configuration Panel > System > Device Manager
Select your drive : --> Properties and you should find a DMA check box.

Yves.

ZRocker · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2003, 07:03:01 am »

Goto GOOGLE and do a search with "enable dma windows 98" in the search box (no quotes).

Or, click HERE to do the Google search auto-magically.

fdgsdfg · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2003, 07:23:48 am »

coole thx. i guess i coulda come up with that . . .

fdgsdfg · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2003, 07:29:45 am »

For the record, DMA is enabled on both CD drives. I think my computer just needs to be put out of her misery . . .

bob_j · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2003, 03:20:55 am »

I too was concerned about ripping speed. I have an old system 400Mhz P2, 384Mb Win 2K. I just bought a new PlexWriter 48/24/48 CD writer. I was disappointed to see that the speed never seemed to get above 5X or so when ripping to MP3. I also have Nero which seemed much faster, so I thought I'd do the pepsi challenge.

I put in a music CD "Heros Are Hard to Find", Fleetwood Mac. and let Nero go halfway thru the copy. Basically reading the data off the CD and writing it in wav format on the hard drive. Time 1:40.

Then I set up Media Center (9.0.88) to rip to uncompressed wave format and unchecked simultaneous rip and encode. There was no normalization. Time 2:10

So it takes 30% longer to rip with Media Center than it did with Nero.

bob_j · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2003, 03:57:33 am »

And I did a burning test too.
I burned a CD from wave format with Nero and Media Center. The CD was completely full and it took both applications approx. 4 minutes. They were within 3 seconds of each other.

PeterO · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2003, 10:18:15 am »

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>> or does my computer just suck?
It just sucks

Hi KingSparta,
the MC9 encoder is not the fastest so the ripping speed of 1.5 could be normal ! The fastest speed I have seen in MC9 was 4.9 with Internal MP3 Normal Quality at the end of ripping.
With High Speed Ripping I see 4.9in the middle and 5.8 at the end of the song.
The encoder is just LAME as you mentioned already :-)
I am working with a PIII 1.1GHz 512MB Notebook and according www.pcpitstop.com all is OK with my system.

On my system I have rechaed a max ripping speed of x9 with the Musicmatch (7.x) Encoder at 128 kBit. They use the Fraunhofer FastEnc Encoder. The Quality is just fine for me.

I am very interested in a faster ripping speed. If you see a chance please tell me.

Thanks a lot !

Peter

fdgsdfg · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2003, 11:28:12 am »

Ripping to .wav is around 2x. Encoding is about the same.

MachineHead · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2003, 12:08:11 pm »

That's kind of odd. I have an OLD 333 PII, and typically I get around 8x-10x ripping to wav. Encoding is another ball game altogether.

RemyJ · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2003, 01:24:29 pm »

Not that odd. The type of IDE controller, what else it connected to it, drivers, and the OS itself can make a big difference in ripping speed.

mcphzgig · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2003, 04:29:36 pm »

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>> or does my computer just suck?
It just sucks

Inappropriate comment, King.

I have an Athlon 1800+/512Mb RAM with an Iomega 40x read drive (actually a LiteOn in disguise). Maybe that sucks too. Media Center rarely rips to MP3 above 5x for me.

In the same configuration, RealOne used to rip/encode at up to 15x after an initial run-up (for similar VBRs).

I accept MC9's relative slowness at ripping because of its other benefits, but I would like it to rip faster nevertheless.

KingSparta · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2003, 04:44:54 pm »

>> Inappropriate comment, King.
It Was A Joke

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