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V-Man

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Minor tagging disaster!
« on: November 07, 2002, 02:01:05 am »

Hi!

I just purchased MJ8 yesterday and installed the MJ9 Beta. Very cool, especially like the ability to manage image files as well.

Had a minor tagging disaster yesterday. I selected the Music node in Media Library. I was experimenting and typed in a new Album name in the right-hand tag editor, and it changed the Album field of all of my 1000+ MP3s!

I know it's not a bug and I blundered, but I think it would be more intuitive and safer if you had to have one or more or all files selected in the contents view to which such changes are applied. Ie, not to assume an implicit select-all as it appears to do. I think if you type in a new tag value when no tracks are selected, it should present you with a dialog box asking if you want to apply the change to all tracks in the contents view:

No tracks are currently selected! Instead apply tag change to all files shown in Contents Pane?
[Yes] [No]

No should be the default each time. To avoid the message you should first click in the Contents Pane, do a Select All (Ctrl+A) then type a new value in the tagging pane.

Fortunately I think I can fix the tags with a retag-from-filename operation.
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2002, 02:55:35 am »

I have never had a problem like that, and as far as i know you must have the files taged before it changes any of them.
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V-Man

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2002, 03:12:40 am »

I'll have another go tonight, but it certainly seemed to retag everything in the contents view even though none of the items were highlighted.  ?
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2002, 04:14:31 am »

For future reference, you can use the Undo feature to put everything back to the way it was.

I'm not sure if it will work for you now, though.
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2002, 04:43:06 am »

If people don't like the default "work with everything when there's no selection" we can change it.

An example of why that's nice is if you click on an album in the tree, you can quickly see all the properties, statistics, etc. without having to do a "select all" first.

Let us know. (just don't say "make it optional" :P)

Thanks, and sorry for the hassles.
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2002, 05:51:36 am »

make it optional
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2002, 05:56:20 am »

yeah optional sounds good ;D

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2002, 08:31:37 am »

I agree with V-Man. Almost everything in Windows follows the 'select, then do' model - so MJ should in this instance. Its more intuitive.
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nila

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2002, 12:09:14 pm »

Optional is great.

I'd personally also love it to be optional that before any changes are applied a confirm box comes up saying:
this will change X files.
Do you want to continue?
 Yes    No

Obviously as an option :)
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phelt

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2002, 12:32:02 pm »

Really, there should be per-user/genre/bitrate/import-date options to make any optional setting controls optional.
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V-Man

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2002, 11:00:34 pm »

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If people don't like the default "work with everything when there's no selection" we can change it.

An example of why that's nice is if you click on an album in the tree, you can quickly see all the properties, statistics, etc. without having to do a "select all" first.


I agree that's one benefit, and I would recommend keeping that ability to view properties of all files in the group when there's no selection. I just don't think it's right that you can mass-edit files that don't appear to be selected.

Another thing that would be nice is a progress bar as sometimes these things can take a long time. I was waiting about 15 mins yesterday. Once I even killed MJ as it looked very much like it had hung and task mgr said "Not responding" but it would be good to be sure.

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2002, 03:24:01 am »

>> Another thing that would be nice is a progress bar
been asking for the same thing.

for some reason i don't think they like progress bars.
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2002, 03:44:03 am »

I have a very conservative opinion about that: I think the rule "an operation applies only on selected items" is a fundamental rule except if this operation doesn't make sense for individual items (db backup as an example).
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V-Man

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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2002, 03:58:48 am »

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for some reason i don't think they like progress bars.


Neither do I. Guys, could you please rewrite MJ so that everything happens before you've even thought about it?  ;D
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Re: Minor tagging disaster!
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2002, 07:17:45 am »

Or When changing tags just change them all to

Bananarama - I Can't Help It (Not Optional!!!)
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