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[zeltak]

hi guys!!

i have been trying with no success in the last few weeks to orginaze a simple (or so i thought) smartlist that will most importantly produce a playlist with my fav.(4+5 star) that will only have one artist per playlist and will be truly randon. now i have a huge collection of more then 40,000 files and i guess about 10,000 4+5 star tracks. the thing is i really get a lot of dupilcates no matter what i do or how how they change each build. that dosent bother me as much as the fact that even though i have a huge collection as i said i keep getting tracks that appear constantly in every playlist generated , which if it was truly random there is no statistical way that it could happen, i have bands\tracks that keep apperaing while others never make it to the playlist. Making smatlists is one of my key features in a music program and its a shame that mc dosent handle it well since every other aspect is perfect (for me) any ideas of if or how i can fix this annoying problem??
thx alot
Zeltak

P.s

this is what my smartlist looks like

[Media Type]=[Audio] ~nodup=[artist] ~sort=[Random] ~n=100 [Rating]==4,=5 [Last Played]=>=4320 [media type]=[audio] [duration]=<600

[KingSparta]

so what version of MC are you using?

MC10 has a recent change that will allow ~noDups to work correctly as in MC9 it never did worked how users wanted it to work.

[zeltak]

im using the latest MC 10 (.70) but it still dosent work....

[Matt]

Order of ~ parameters matters now, so do this:

[Media Type]=[Audio] ~sort=[random] ~nodup=[artist] ~n=100

This works because:

a) it shuffles the list (needed because otherwise you'll get all track #1's from the next step)
b) removes duplicates
c) limits that list to 100 songs

For me that's working perfectly.  Changing the order will give you different results that may not be what you want in this case.

[KingSparta]

maybe ~nodups no matter where it is in the parm should be action by MC last

or forced after some parms

[zeltak]

thx for the answers guys!

what matt suggested kinda works fine if i dont add other options such as if i want to define songs not listend for over a week etc...oh well i guess you cant have it all  

thx

zeltak

[bmunroe]

what does ~ do?

Brian

[jleerigby]

what does ~ do?

This is what you get when you use the Add Modifier search rule (Duplications, Sorting etc).  You won't normally see the ~ as MC displays the result in user friendly language e.g. Modifier: Full Albums but you could just as easily type ~a

[hobbesateclavin]

what matt suggested kinda works fine if i dont add other options such as if i want to define songs not listend for over a week etc...oh well i guess you cant have it all  

Check this out:

[rating]=4,5 [last played]=>10080 [media type]=[audio] -[Genre]=[Gothic],[Hardcore],[Hip Hop],[Industrial],[Metal] -[Genre]=[Punk],[Punk Rock] [Duration]=<600 ~nodup=[Artist] ~sort=[Random]

Favorites that haven't been played in over a week and taking out genres that I don't want played - soerted random, no duplicates.

- the only problem I found is that once it goes through one favorite from each artist - it no longer returns any results. I tried playing tracks from another playlist, then going back to this one but it was still empty.

Anyone know how to  get around this?

[JustinChase]

Per Matt...

Order of ~ parameters matters now

This works because:

a) it shuffles the list (needed because otherwise you'll get all track #1's from the next step)

Not sure this will help, but it shouldn't hurt.

I'm guessing that the problem has to do with last played being before ~nodup=[Artist], but it does seem right the way it is (other than above).

[Matt]

maybe ~nodups no matter where it is in the parm should be action by MC last

or forced after some parms

Next build ~nodups will cause the list to be shuffled before running if some other order hasn't been applied. (with a ~sort, etc.)

This means you won't need a ~sort=[random] before a ~nodups anymore.

[bmunroe]

what does ~ do?

This is what you get when you use the Add Modifier search rule (Duplications, Sorting etc).  You won't normally see the ~ as MC displays the result in user friendly language e.g. Modifier: Full Albums but you could just as easily type ~a

So is there a difference between, say, sort and ~sort?  Or is it only ~sort?

[Matt]

So is there a difference between, say, sort and ~sort?  Or is it only ~sort?

sort would search for the word sort.

~sort would sort the results after the search ran.

So the ~ is a flag to tell the search engine you're doing something fancy.

If you use the wizard, you don't need to worry about it.